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From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: Alexandre Ghiti <alex@ghiti.fr>
Cc: "Jesse Taube" <jesse@rivosinc.com>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	llvm@lists.linux.dev, "Alexandre Ghiti" <alexghiti@rivosinc.com>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Albert Ou" <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@rivosinc.com>,
	"Paul Walmsley" <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Nick Desaulniers" <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	"Masahiro Yamada" <masahiroy@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v0] RISC-V: Use Zkr to seed KASLR base address
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2024 13:47:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240603-stinking-roster-cfad46696ae5@spud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b199fde6-c24e-4c18-9c38-fdc923294551@ghiti.fr>

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On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 11:14:49AM +0200, Alexandre Ghiti wrote:
> Hi Conor,
> 
> On 31/05/2024 19:31, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 12:23:27PM -0400, Jesse Taube wrote:
> > > Dectect the Zkr extension and use it to seed the kernel base address.
> > > 
> > > Detection of the extension can not be done in the typical fashion, as
> > > this is very early in the boot process. Instead, add a trap handler
> > > and run it to see if the extension is present.
> > You can't rely on the lack of a trap meaning that Zkr is present unless
> > you know that the platform implements Ssstrict. The CSR with that number
> > could do anything if not Ssstrict compliant, so this approach gets a
> > nak from me. Unfortunately, Ssstrict doesn't provide a way to detect
> > it, so you're stuck with getting that information from firmware.
> 
> 
> FYI, this patch is my idea, so I'm the one to blame here :)
> 
> 
> > 
> > For DT systems, you can actually parse the DT in the pi, we do it to get
> > the kaslr seed if present, so you can actually check for Zkr. With ACPI
> > I have no idea how you can get that information, I amn't an ACPI-ist.
> 
> 
> I took a look at how to access ACPI tables this early when implementing the
> Zabha/Zacas patches, but it seems not possible.
> 
> But I'll look into this more, this is not the first time we need the
> extensions list very early and since we have no way to detect the presence
> of an extension at runtime, something needs to be done.

Aye, having remembered that reading CSR_SEED could have side-effects on a
system with non-conforming extensions, it'd be good to see if we can
actually do this via detection on ACPI - especially for some other
extensions that we may need to turn on very early (I forget which ones we
talked about this before for). I didn't arm64 do anything with ACPI in the
pi code, is the code arch/x86/boot/compressed run at an equivilent-ish point
in boot?

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-03 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-31 16:23 [PATCH v0] RISC-V: Use Zkr to seed KASLR base address Jesse Taube
2024-05-31 17:31 ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-31 20:19   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-31 21:36     ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-31 21:40       ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-06-01 13:22         ` Conor Dooley
2024-06-03  9:14   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2024-06-03 12:47     ` Conor Dooley [this message]
2024-06-07 18:51       ` Deepak Gupta
2024-06-10  8:33         ` Clément Léger
2024-06-10  9:02           ` Conor Dooley
2024-06-10  9:16             ` Clément Léger
2024-06-10 21:06               ` Deepak Gupta
2024-06-10 21:56                 ` Conor Dooley
2024-06-11 15:32                   ` Deepak Gupta
2024-06-12  7:15                     ` Clément Léger
2024-06-12  7:48                       ` Atish Kumar Patra
2024-06-12 14:58                       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2024-05-31 18:34 ` kernel test robot
2024-05-31 18:55 ` kernel test robot
2024-05-31 22:44 ` kernel test robot
2024-06-05  4:51 ` Zong Li
2024-06-06 15:50   ` Jesse Taube

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