From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, llvm@lists.linux.dev,
Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/locking/core] compiler-context-analysis: Support immediate acquisition after initialization
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2026 16:47:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260116154754.GN830755@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260116152741.GA19823@lst.de>
On Fri, Jan 16, 2026 at 04:27:41PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2026 at 04:20:16PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > is *much* clearer than something like:
> >
> > spinlock_init(&obj->lock);
> > // init
> > spinlock_deinit(&obj->lock);
> >
> > Exactly because it has explicit scope. (also my deinit naming might not
> > be optimal, it is ambiguous at best, probably confusing).
>
> WTF is spinlock_deinit even supposed to be?
>
> I though this is about:
>
> spin_lock_init(&obj->lock);
> spin_lock(&obj->lock);
>
> > Not to mention that the scope things are far more robust vs error paths.
>
> They are just a really hacked up clumsy way to provide what a very
> limited version of what the capability analys provides, while messing
> up the code.
So the base problem here is something like:
struct obj {
spinlock_t lock;
int state __guarded_by(lock);
};
struct obj *create_obj(void)
{
struct obj *obj = kzmalloc(sizeof(*obj), GFP_KERNEL);
if (!obj)
return NULL;
spin_lock_init(&obj->lock);
obj->state = INIT_STATE; // error: ->state demands ->lock is held
}
So if you want/can take spin_lock() directly after spin_lock_init(),
then yes, you can write:
spin_lock_init(&obj->lock);
spin_lock(&obj->lock);
obj->state = INIT_STATE; // OK
However, if code is structured such that you need to init fields before
taking the lock, you need a 'fake' lock acquire to wrap the
initialization -- which is safe because there is no concurrency yet and
all that, furthermore, by holding the fake lock you also ensure you
cannot in fact take the lock and create undue concurrency before
initialization is complete.
So the fairly common pattern where an object is first (fully) initialized
before it can be used will need this fake acquisition. For this we get:
scoped_lock (spinlock_init, &obj->lock) {
// init goes here
}
Or you can manually __acquire_ctx_lock() / __release_ctx_lock().
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-16 15:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-15 0:51 [PATCH tip/locking/core] compiler-context-analysis: Support immediate acquisition after initialization Marco Elver
2026-01-15 17:22 ` Bart Van Assche
2026-01-15 17:58 ` Marco Elver
2026-01-15 18:04 ` Bart Van Assche
2026-01-15 21:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-16 1:17 ` Marco Elver
2026-01-16 15:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-16 15:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-16 15:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-16 15:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-16 15:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-16 15:37 ` Marco Elver
2026-01-16 15:47 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-01-19 9:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-22 1:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-22 6:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-22 9:15 ` Marco Elver
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