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From: Joao Moreira <joao@overdrivepizza.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	hjl.tools@gmail.com, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	andrew.cooper3@citrix.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	llvm@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 6/6] objtool: Add IBT validation / fixups
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:38:33 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4553dfb68285a686737969e117bf48cc@overdrivepizza.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202202151503.91E9B76B@keescook>

>> 
>> Mostly so that we can deduce the address of the trap from the 
>> retpoline
>> site, also the above has a fairly high chance of using jcc.d32 which 
>> is
>> actually larger than jcc.d8+ud2.
> 
> Ah, yeah, that's an interesting point.
> 
> Still, I worry about finding ways to convinces Clang to emit precisely
> cmp/je/trap/call, but I guess we'll catch it immediately if it doesn't.
> :P

This can probably be done more easily/precisely if implemented directly
in the compiler's arch-specific backend. At least for x86 it wasn't a
hassle to emit a defined sequence of instructions in the past. The price
is that it will require a pass specific to each supported architecture,
but I guess this isn't that bad.

Perhaps this is discussion for a different mailing list, idk... but
just pointing that it is not a huge wall.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-15 23:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]   ` <6ebb0ab131c522f20c094294d49091fc@overdrivepizza.com>
     [not found]     ` <202202081541.900F9E1B@keescook>
     [not found]       ` <ad6c2633f39e39583bc5c5eaf7ccbe52@overdrivepizza.com>
2022-02-09  4:05         ` [RFC][PATCH 6/6] objtool: Add IBT validation / fixups Kees Cook
2022-02-09  5:18           ` Joao Moreira
2022-02-11 13:38             ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-14 21:38               ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-02-14 22:25                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-15 16:56                   ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-02-15 20:03                     ` Kees Cook
2022-02-15 21:05                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-15 23:05                         ` Kees Cook
2022-02-15 23:38                           ` Joao Moreira [this message]
2022-02-16 12:24                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-15 20:53                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-15 22:45               ` Joao Moreira
2022-02-16  0:57               ` Andrew Cooper
2022-03-02  3:06               ` Peter Collingbourne
2022-03-02  3:32                 ` Joao Moreira
2022-06-08 17:53                 ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2022-06-09  0:05                   ` Sami Tolvanen

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