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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 05/28] x86: Define the stack protector guard symbol explicitly
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 19:43:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXEmssrOhu20aLW4v88YVdkCfbeRg6arkgUoDNHm-4vbMA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fXw1rcgWgMeDSVqiDYh2XYApyaJpNvukvJ7vMs7ZPMr6g@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 25 Sept 2024 at 17:54, Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 8:02 AM Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+git@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
> >
> > Specify the guard symbol for the stack cookie explicitly, rather than
> > positioning it exactly 40 bytes into the per-CPU area. Doing so removes
> > the need for the per-CPU region to be absolute rather than relative to
> > the placement of the per-CPU template region in the kernel image, and
> > this allows the special handling for absolute per-CPU symbols to be
> > removed entirely.
> >
> > This is a worthwhile cleanup in itself, but it is also a prerequisite
> > for PIE codegen and PIE linking, which can replace our bespoke and
> > rather clunky runtime relocation handling.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
> > ---
> >  arch/x86/Makefile                     |  4 ++++
> >  arch/x86/include/asm/init.h           |  2 +-
> >  arch/x86/include/asm/processor.h      | 11 +++--------
> >  arch/x86/include/asm/stackprotector.h |  4 ----
> >  tools/perf/util/annotate.c            |  4 ++--
> >  5 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
> >
...
> > diff --git a/tools/perf/util/annotate.c b/tools/perf/util/annotate.c
> > index 37ce43c4eb8f..7ecfedf5edb9 100644
> > --- a/tools/perf/util/annotate.c
> > +++ b/tools/perf/util/annotate.c
> > @@ -2485,10 +2485,10 @@ static bool is_stack_operation(struct arch *arch, struct disasm_line *dl)
> >
> >  static bool is_stack_canary(struct arch *arch, struct annotated_op_loc *loc)
> >  {
> > -       /* On x86_64, %gs:40 is used for stack canary */
> > +       /* On x86_64, %gs:0 is used for stack canary */
> >         if (arch__is(arch, "x86")) {
> >                 if (loc->segment == INSN_SEG_X86_GS && loc->imm &&
> > -                   loc->offset == 40)
> > +                   loc->offset == 0)
>
> As a new perf tool  can run on old kernels we may need to have this be
> something like:
> (loc->offset == 40 /* pre v6.xx kernels */ || loc->offset == 0 /*
> v6.xx and later */ )
>
> We could make this dependent on the kernel by processing the os_release string:
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perf/perf-tools-next.git/tree/tools/perf/util/env.h#n55
> but that could well be more trouble than it is worth.
>

Yeah. I also wonder what the purpose of this feature is. At the end of
this series, the stack cookie will no longer be at a fixed offset of
%GS anyway, and so perf will not be able to identify it in the same
manner. So it is probably better to just leave this in place, as the
%gs:0 case will not exist in the field (assuming that the series lands
all at once).

Any idea why this deviates from other architectures? Is x86_64 the
only arch that needs to identify stack canary accesses in perf? We
could rename the symbol to something identifiable, and do it across
all architectures, if this really serves a need (and assuming that
perf has insight into the symbol table).

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-25 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-25 15:01 [RFC PATCH 00/28] x86: Rely on toolchain for relocatable code Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 01/28] x86/pvh: Call C code via the kernel virtual mapping Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 21:12   ` Jason Andryuk
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 02/28] Documentation: Bump minimum GCC version to 8.1 Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:58   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-19 11:53     ` Mark Rutland
2024-12-19 12:02       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-09-26 21:35   ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-09-27 16:22   ` Mark Rutland
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 03/28] x86/tools: Use mmap() to simplify relocs host tool Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 04/28] x86/boot: Permit GOTPCREL relocations for x86_64 builds Ard Biesheuvel
2024-10-01  5:33   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-01  6:56     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 05/28] x86: Define the stack protector guard symbol explicitly Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:53   ` Ian Rogers
2024-09-25 17:43     ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2024-09-25 17:48       ` Ian Rogers
2024-09-25 18:32   ` Uros Bizjak
2024-09-28 13:41     ` Brian Gerst
2024-10-04 13:15       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-10-08 14:36         ` Brian Gerst
2024-10-04 10:01   ` Uros Bizjak
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 06/28] x86/percpu: Get rid of absolute per-CPU variable placement Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 17:56   ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 07/28] scripts/kallsyms: Avoid 0x0 as the relative base Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 08/28] scripts/kallsyms: Remove support for absolute per-CPU variables Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 09/28] x86/tools: Remove special relocation handling for " Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 10/28] x86/xen: Avoid relocatable quantities in Xen ELF notes Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 11/28] x86/pvh: Avoid absolute symbol references in .head.text Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 21:10   ` Jason Andryuk
2024-09-25 21:50     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 22:40       ` Jason Andryuk
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 12/28] x86/pm-trace: Use RIP-relative accesses for .tracedata Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 13/28] x86/kvm: Use RIP-relative addressing Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 14/28] x86/rethook: Use RIP-relative reference for return address Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 16:39   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-25 16:45     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 15/28] x86/sync_core: Use RIP-relative addressing Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 16/28] x86/entry_64: " Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 17/28] x86/hibernate: Prefer RIP-relative accesses Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 18/28] x86/boot/64: Determine VA/PA offset before entering C code Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 19/28] x86/boot/64: Avoid intentional absolute symbol references in .head.text Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 20/28] x64/acpi: Use PIC-compatible references in wakeup_64.S Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 21/28] x86/head: Use PIC-compatible symbol references in startup code Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 22/28] asm-generic: Treat PIC .data.rel.ro sections as .rodata Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 23/28] tools/objtool: Mark generated sections as writable Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 24/28] tools/objtool: Treat indirect ftrace calls as direct calls Ard Biesheuvel
2024-10-01  7:18   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-01  7:39     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 25/28] x86: Use PIE codegen for the core kernel Ard Biesheuvel
2024-10-01 21:13   ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-10-02 15:25     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-10-02 20:01       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-03 11:13         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-10-04 21:06           ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-10-05  8:31             ` Uros Bizjak
2024-10-05 23:36               ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-10-06  0:00                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-06  8:06                   ` Uros Bizjak
2024-10-06  7:59                 ` Uros Bizjak
2024-10-06 18:00                   ` David Laight
2024-10-06 19:17                     ` Uros Bizjak
2024-10-06 19:38                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 26/28] x86/boot: Implement support for ELF RELA/RELR relocations Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 27/28] x86/kernel: Switch to PIE linking for the core kernel Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 18:54   ` Uros Bizjak
2024-09-25 19:14     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 19:39       ` Uros Bizjak
2024-09-25 20:01         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 20:22           ` Uros Bizjak
2024-09-25 20:24   ` Vegard Nossum
2024-09-26 13:38     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-09-25 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 28/28] x86/tools: Drop x86_64 support from 'relocs' tool Ard Biesheuvel

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