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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Joao Moreira <joao@overdrivepizza.com>,
	Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, llvm@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/21] KCFI support
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2022 11:02:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ymz7DWkRJy3PMaHm@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202204291545.47C6A97EA2@keescook>

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 03:53:12PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 01:36:23PM -0700, Sami Tolvanen wrote:
> > KCFI is a proposed forward-edge control-flow integrity scheme for
> > Clang, which is more suitable for kernel use than the existing CFI
> > scheme used by CONFIG_CFI_CLANG. KCFI doesn't require LTO, doesn't
> > alter function references to point to a jump table, and won't break
> > function address equality.
> 
> 🎉 :)
> 
> > The latest LLVM patches are here:
> > 
> >   https://reviews.llvm.org/D119296
> >   https://reviews.llvm.org/D124211
> > 
> > [...]
> > To test this series, you'll need to compile your own Clang toolchain
> > with the patches linked above. You can also find the complete source
> > tree here:
> > 
> >   https://github.com/samitolvanen/llvm-project/commits/kcfi-rfc
> 
> And note that this RFC is seeking to break a bit of a circular dependency
> with regard to the design of __builtin_kcfi_call_unchecked (D124211
> above), as the implementation has gone around a few times in review within
> LLVM, and we want to make sure that kernel folks are okay with what was
> settled on. If there are no objections on the kernel side, then we can
> land the KCFI patches, as this is basically the only remaining blocker.

So aside from the static_call usage, was there any other?

Anyway, I think I hate that __builtin, I'd *much* rather see a variable
attribute or qualifier for this, such that one can mark a function
pointer as not doing CFI.

I simply doesn't make sense to have a builtin that operates on an
expression. The whole thing is about indirect calls, IOW function
pointers.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-30  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-29 20:36 [RFC PATCH 00/21] KCFI support Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 01/21] efi/libstub: Filter out CC_FLAGS_CFI Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 02/21] arm64/vdso: " Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 03/21] kallsyms: Ignore __kcfi_typeid_ Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 04/21] cfi: Remove CONFIG_CFI_CLANG_SHADOW Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 05/21] cfi: Drop __CFI_ADDRESSABLE Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 06/21] cfi: Switch to -fsanitize=kcfi Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-30  9:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 07/21] cfi: Add type helper macros Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 08/21] arm64/crypto: Add types to indirect called assembly functions Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 09/21] arm64: Add CFI error handling Sami Tolvanen
2022-05-05 15:44   ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-05 16:23     ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 10/21] treewide: Drop function_nocfi Sami Tolvanen
2022-05-05 16:30   ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-05 16:51     ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-05-05 18:03       ` Mark Rutland
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 11/21] treewide: Drop WARN_ON_FUNCTION_MISMATCH Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 12/21] treewide: Drop __cficanonical Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 13/21] cfi: Add the cfi_unchecked macro Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 14/21] treewide: static_call: Pass call arguments to the macro Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 23:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-30  0:49     ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-05-02  7:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 15/21] static_call: Use cfi_unchecked Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 23:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 16/21] objtool: Add support for CONFIG_CFI_CLANG Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 23:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-30  1:00     ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 17/21] x86/tools/relocs: Ignore __kcfi_typeid_ relocations Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 18/21] x86: Add types to indirect called assembly functions Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 19/21] x86/purgatory: Disable CFI Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 20/21] x86/vdso: " Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 20:36 ` [RFC PATCH 21/21] x86: Add support for CONFIG_CFI_CLANG Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-30  9:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-02 15:20     ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-04-29 22:53 ` [RFC PATCH 00/21] KCFI support Kees Cook
2022-04-30  9:02   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-05-02 15:22     ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-05-02 19:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-03 22:35         ` Peter Collingbourne
2022-05-04  7:34           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-30 16:07 ` Kenton Groombridge
2022-05-02 15:31   ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-05-04 16:17 ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-04 16:41   ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-05-04 20:17     ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-05-05 12:36       ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-05 16:00         ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-05-05 17:14           ` Mark Rutland

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