From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
"Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
"Dietmar Eggemann" <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"Ben Segall" <bsegall@google.com>, "Mel Gorman" <mgorman@suse.de>,
"Valentin Schneider" <vschneid@redhat.com>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
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"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
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"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
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"Justin Stitt" <justinstitt@google.com>,
"FUJITA Tomonori" <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>,
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"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
"Panagiotis Foliadis" <pfoliadis@posteo.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
llvm@lists.linux.dev,
"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] sched/core: Add __might_sleep_precision()
Date: Fri, 9 May 2025 00:19:03 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aB2sZ60WI5thp6ve@Mac.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aB2aAEELa3253nBh@gmail.com>
On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 08:00:32AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>
> >
> > Add __might_sleep_precision(), Rust friendly version of
> > __might_sleep(), which takes a pointer to a string with the length
> > instead of a null-terminated string.
> >
> > Rust's core::panic::Location::file(), which gives the file name of a
> > caller, doesn't provide a null-terminated
> > string. __might_sleep_precision() uses a precision specifier in the
> > printk format, which specifies the length of a string; a string
> > doesn't need to be a null-terminated.
> >
> > Modify __might_sleep() to call __might_sleep_precision() but the
> > impact should be negligible. When printing the error (sleeping
> > function called from invalid context), the precision string format is
> > used instead of the simple string format; the precision specifies the
> > the maximum length of the displayed string.
> >
> > Note that Location::file() providing a null-terminated string for
> > better C interoperability is under discussion [1].
> >
> > [1]: https://github.com/rust-lang/libs-team/issues/466
> >
> > Tested-by: Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
> > Co-developed-by: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > Signed-off-by: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20250410225623.152616-2-fujita.tomonori@gmail.com
> > ---
> > include/linux/kernel.h | 2 ++
> > kernel/sched/core.c | 62 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
> > 2 files changed, 43 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/include/linux/kernel.h b/include/linux/kernel.h
> > index be2e8c0a187e..086ee1dc447e 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/kernel.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/kernel.h
> > @@ -87,6 +87,7 @@ extern int dynamic_might_resched(void);
> > #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP
> > extern void __might_resched(const char *file, int line, unsigned int offsets);
> > extern void __might_sleep(const char *file, int line);
> > +extern void __might_sleep_precision(const char *file, int len, int line);
>
> Ugh.
>
> Firstly, '_precision' is really ambiguous in this context and suggests
> 'precise sleep' or something like that, which this is not about at all.
> So the naming here is all sorts of bad already.
>
I accept this is not a good naming.
> But more importantly, this is really a Rust problem. Does Rust really
> have no NUL-terminated strings? It should hide them in shame and
You can create NUL-terminated strings in Rust of course, but in this
case, because we want to use the "#[trace_caller]" attribute [1], which
allows might_sleep() in Rust to be defined as a function, and can use
Location::caller() to get the caller file and line number information,
and `Location` type yet doesn't return a Nul-terminated string literal,
so we have to work this around.
> construct proper, robust strings, instead of spreading this disease to
> the rest of the kernel, IMHO ...
>
> Rust is supposed to be about increased security, right? How does extra,
> nonsensical complexity for simple concepts such as strings achieve
> that? If the Rust runtime wants to hook into debug facilities of the
> Linux kernel then I have bad news: almost all strings used by kernel
> debugging facilities are NUL-terminated.
This is more of a special case because `Location` is used (i.e. file
name is the string literal). For things like user-defined string, we use
the macro c_str!(), which generates NUL-terminated strings. For example,
lockdep class names.
>
> So I really don't like this patch. Is there no other way to do this?
>
There's a `c_str` [2] macro which could generates a NUL-terminated
string, but using that will requires might_sleep() defined as a macro as
well. Given that might_sleep() is the user interface that most users
will use, and how it handles string literal for file names is an
implementation detail, so I figured it's better we resolve in the
current way.
[1]: https://rustc-dev-guide.rust-lang.org/backend/implicit-caller-location.html
[2]: https://rust.docs.kernel.org/kernel/macro.c_str.html
Regards,
Boqun
> Thanks,
>
> Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-09 7:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-06 4:58 [GIT PULL] [PATCH 0/5] rust: Task & schedule related changes for v6.16 Boqun Feng
2025-05-06 4:58 ` [PATCH 1/5] rust: sync: Mark CondVar::notify_*() inline Boqun Feng
2025-05-06 4:58 ` [PATCH 2/5] rust: sync: Mark PollCondVar::drop() inline Boqun Feng
2025-05-06 4:58 ` [PATCH 3/5] rust: task: Mark Task methods inline Boqun Feng
2025-05-06 4:58 ` [PATCH 4/5] sched/core: Add __might_sleep_precision() Boqun Feng
2025-05-09 6:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-09 7:19 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2025-05-19 12:40 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-02 18:16 ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-09 7:41 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-05-09 9:20 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-06 4:58 ` [PATCH 5/5] rust: task: Add Rust version of might_sleep() Boqun Feng
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