Re: [LTP] About Community discussion

Re: [LTP] About Community discussion

[Garrett Cooper]

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Gui Jianfeng
<guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> Hi Garrett,
>
> I'm sorry to bother you. My team is trying to make LTP more stable and
> make openposix testsuite less bugs. We'd like to continue to contribute
> to it. But I found you stop replying our mail for a long time. I'm not
> sure whether you have received these mails. Or whether you have some
> concerns? If yes, please let me know. :)

Hi Gui,
    What concerns me isn't the fact that people are `finding
problems', it's the analysis and the quality of the patches provided
back which are problematic. Some of the analysis is spot on, some is
way off the mark, and other analysis is incomplete; furthermore some
of the patches fed back are hacky or unmaintainable. Add to that the
fact that I'm not getting paid for this work and it no longer really
aligns with my current job charter, I've been neglecting this in favor
of more critical items in my life.
    That being said, it still puzzles me why other folks attached to
the project have been largely silent over the past couple months or
years (in particular the official maintainers), as I would figure that
they would have a vested interest in insuring that the changes being
committed to the project are consistent and/or high quality.
    I will look at the open_posix_testsuite items again tonight and
will make a best effort at fixing things. I may not get as much done
as people like, but I'm being more conservative to avoid missteps and
incorrect commits.
Thanks,
-Garrett

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Re: [LTP] About Community discussion

[Serge E. Hallyn]

Quoting Garrett Cooper (yanegomi@gmail.com):
>     That being said, it still puzzles me why other folks attached to
> the project have been largely silent over the past couple months or
> years (in particular the official maintainers), as I would figure that
> they would have a vested interest in insuring that the changes being
> committed to the project are consistent and/or high quality.

I'd sort of assumed you had taken over maintainership!  Is Subrata still
trying to be involved?  Does IBM have any resources assigned at all?

-serge

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Re: [LTP] About Community discussion

[Garrett Cooper]

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Serge E. Hallyn
<serge.hallyn@canonical.com> wrote:
> Quoting Garrett Cooper (yanegomi@gmail.com):
>>     That being said, it still puzzles me why other folks attached to
>> the project have been largely silent over the past couple months or
>> years (in particular the official maintainers), as I would figure that
>> they would have a vested interest in insuring that the changes being
>> committed to the project are consistent and/or high quality.
>
> I'd sort of assumed you had taken over maintainership!  Is Subrata still
> trying to be involved?  Does IBM have any resources assigned at all?

    Ack... I don't want to be a maintainer. A committer is ok, but a
maintainer...? No thanks :(. I don't have the time, the access, or the
ability to maintain releases or the project.
    Rishi went other places, but I have no idea what happened to the
rest of the Canonical, IBM, and SGI folks -- they kind of fell off the
map (minus Peter from IBM who is religiously committing to lcov) :/...
Thanks,
-Garrett

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Re: [LTP] About Community discussion

[Rajak, Rishikesh Kumar]

Hi Garret,

I did not go anywhere, I always watch this place whenever I get time as it is my ever favorite list. Only priorities has changed and because of that I am not able to contribute now, but planning to come back soon in 2011.

Regards
Rishi

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From: Garrett Cooper [mailto:yanegomi@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 9:56 PM
To: Serge E. Hallyn
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Subject: Re: [LTP] About Community discussion

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Serge E. Hallyn
<serge.hallyn@canonical.com> wrote:
> Quoting Garrett Cooper (yanegomi@gmail.com):
>>     That being said, it still puzzles me why other folks attached to
>> the project have been largely silent over the past couple months or
>> years (in particular the official maintainers), as I would figure that
>> they would have a vested interest in insuring that the changes being
>> committed to the project are consistent and/or high quality.
>
> I'd sort of assumed you had taken over maintainership!  Is Subrata still
> trying to be involved?  Does IBM have any resources assigned at all?

    Ack... I don't want to be a maintainer. A committer is ok, but a
maintainer...? No thanks :(. I don't have the time, the access, or the
ability to maintain releases or the project.
    Rishi went other places, but I have no idea what happened to the
rest of the Canonical, IBM, and SGI folks -- they kind of fell off the
map (minus Peter from IBM who is religiously committing to lcov) :/...
Thanks,
-Garrett

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Re: [LTP] About Community discussion

[Subrata Modak]

On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 08:26 -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Serge E. Hallyn
> <serge.hallyn@canonical.com> wrote:
> > Quoting Garrett Cooper (yanegomi@gmail.com):
> >>     That being said, it still puzzles me why other folks attached to
> >> the project have been largely silent over the past couple months or
> >> years (in particular the official maintainers), as I would figure that
> >> they would have a vested interest in insuring that the changes being
> >> committed to the project are consistent and/or high quality.
> >
> > I'd sort of assumed you had taken over maintainership!  Is Subrata still
> > trying to be involved?  Does IBM have any resources assigned at all?

Well, Yes and no both. Since Rishi moved out of IBM, i was requested to
continue doing minimal releases till they can find somebody to look back
at LTP. 2010 is bit challenging from people management point of view
with lots of people moving in and out of the organization. So, probably
things will settle down for the best and you can hear somebody solidly
from IBM next year.

Regards--
Subrata

> 
>     Ack... I don't want to be a maintainer. A committer is ok, but a
> maintainer...? No thanks :(. I don't have the time, the access, or the
> ability to maintain releases or the project.
>     Rishi went other places, but I have no idea what happened to the
> rest of the Canonical, IBM, and SGI folks -- they kind of fell off the
> map (minus Peter from IBM who is religiously committing to lcov) :/...
> Thanks,
> -Garrett
> 
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Re: [LTP] About Community discussion

[Garrett Cooper]

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Subrata Modak
<subrata@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 08:26 -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Serge E. Hallyn
>> <serge.hallyn@canonical.com> wrote:
>> > Quoting Garrett Cooper (yanegomi@gmail.com):
>> >>     That being said, it still puzzles me why other folks attached to
>> >> the project have been largely silent over the past couple months or
>> >> years (in particular the official maintainers), as I would figure that
>> >> they would have a vested interest in insuring that the changes being
>> >> committed to the project are consistent and/or high quality.
>> >
>> > I'd sort of assumed you had taken over maintainership!  Is Subrata still
>> > trying to be involved?  Does IBM have any resources assigned at all?
>
> Well, Yes and no both. Since Rishi moved out of IBM, i was requested to
> continue doing minimal releases till they can find somebody to look back
> at LTP. 2010 is bit challenging from people management point of view
> with lots of people moving in and out of the organization. So, probably
> things will settle down for the best and you can hear somebody solidly
> from IBM next year.

    Which speaks tomes to the fact that engineering firms prioritize
resource allocation towards feature development and internal QA before
more visible things like external projects (more the case with me),
but I won't rant on that anymore.
Thanks,
-Garrett

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Re: [LTP] About Community discussion

[Gui Jianfeng]

Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Gui Jianfeng
> <guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> Hi Garrett,
>>
>> I'm sorry to bother you. My team is trying to make LTP more stable and
>> make openposix testsuite less bugs. We'd like to continue to contribute
>> to it. But I found you stop replying our mail for a long time. I'm not
>> sure whether you have received these mails. Or whether you have some
>> concerns? If yes, please let me know. :)
> 
> Hi Gui,
>     What concerns me isn't the fact that people are `finding
> problems', it's the analysis and the quality of the patches provided
> back which are problematic. Some of the analysis is spot on, some is
> way off the mark, and other analysis is incomplete; furthermore some
> of the patches fed back are hacky or unmaintainable. Add to that the
> fact that I'm not getting paid for this work and it no longer really
> aligns with my current job charter, I've been neglecting this in favor
> of more critical items in my life.

Ok, I got. :)

>     That being said, it still puzzles me why other folks attached to
> the project have been largely silent over the past couple months or
> years (in particular the official maintainers), as I would figure that
> they would have a vested interest in insuring that the changes being
> committed to the project are consistent and/or high quality.
>     I will look at the open_posix_testsuite items again tonight and
> will make a best effort at fixing things. I may not get as much done
> as people like, but I'm being more conservative to avoid missteps and
> incorrect commits.

Thanks for you work.

Gui

> Thanks,
> -Garrett
> 

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