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From: Richard Palethorpe <rpalethorpe@suse.de>
To: Petr Vorel <pvorel@suse.cz>
Cc: Zack Weinberg <zack@owlfolio.org>,
	Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>,
	autoconf@gnu.org, ltp@lists.linux.it
Subject: Re: [LTP] [PATCH 2/2] configure.ac: Update AC_PROG_AR related comment
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2023 10:21:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y1q8hwu5.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y73Gt6ePQzujriA6@pevik>

Hello,

Petr Vorel <pvorel@suse.cz> writes:

> Hi Zack,
>
> thank you for all your comments, highly appreciated!
>
>> On 2023-01-10 4:25 AM, Richard Palethorpe wrote:
>> > > >   AC_PROG_CC
>> > > > -# <= autoconf 2.61 doesn't have AC_PROG_AR, but 2.63 has it. Not sure about
>> > > > -# 2.62.
>> > > > +# autoconf >= v2.72a
>
>> > > This reads like we need the def for autoconf => v2.72a. How about
>> > You're right.  I probably thought this is defined since v2.72a,
>> > thus not needed.
>
>> Please don't use 'v2.72a' in any commentary or tests.  That version doesn't
>> exist yet and may never exist; if it does, it will be a short-lived beta
>> test release of v2.72 that we don't want people to depend on.
>> (Autoconf uses a very old version numbering convention in which beta tests
>> for release X.Y are labeled X.Ya, X.Yb, X.Yc, etc.)
>
>> Officially, AC_PROG_AR will be available as of version 2.72, and that's what
>> you should reference in commentary.
>
> I understood v2.72a similarly as kernel -rc1 gained new version.
> But sure, makes perfect sense to use final version in the comment.
>
>> > Also it looks like that redefinition is not a problem thus
>> > not wrapping with m4_ifndef([AC_PROG_AR].
>
>> Autoconf will let you do that, but it's bad practice.  What if version 2.73
>> makes AC_PROG_AR expand to something other than
>> AC_CHECK_TOOL(AR, ar, :) ? You'd be overwriting whatever bug fix that was.
>
>> I suggest something like
>
>> # AC_PROG_AR was added in autoconf 2.72.
>> m4_ifndef([AC_PROG_AR],
>>   [AC_DEFUN([AC_PROG_AR], [AC_CHECK_TOOL(AR, ar, :)])])
>
>> > NOTE: missing 'ar' don't fail configure (isn't the check useless
>> > then?)
>
>> We don't know what you need `ar` for; it might not be appropriate to fail
>> the build if it's missing.  You can do
>
>> AC_PROG_AR
>> AS_IF([test x$AR = x:],
>>   [AC_MSG_FAILURE([no usable "ar" program detected])])
>
>> if you want to fail the build.
>
> @Richie @Li, we obviously need ar for libs/, I'd be for this.
> I also have look how other check works.

Sure, also I'll set this to "changes requested" in Patchwork.

>
> Kind regards,
> Petr
>
>> zw


-- 
Thank you,
Richard.

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-12 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-03 12:45 [LTP] [PATCH 1/2] configure.ac: Require 2.64 Petr Vorel
2023-01-03 12:45 ` [LTP] [PATCH 2/2] configure.ac: Update AC_PROG_AR related comment Petr Vorel
2023-01-10  9:25   ` Richard Palethorpe
2023-01-10 16:14     ` Petr Vorel
2023-01-10 19:03       ` Zack Weinberg
2023-01-10 20:12         ` Petr Vorel
2023-01-12 10:21           ` Richard Palethorpe [this message]
2023-01-03 13:30 ` [LTP] [PATCH 1/2] configure.ac: Require 2.64 Petr Vorel
2023-01-04  3:07 ` Li Wang
2023-01-04  9:11   ` Petr Vorel
2023-01-04  9:37     ` Li Wang
2023-01-10  9:48       ` Richard Palethorpe

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