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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Rob van der Heij <rvdheij@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Yannick Brosseau <yannick.brosseau@gmail.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org" <lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org>
Subject: Re: [-stable 3.8.1 performance regression] madvise POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 10:53:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49wqp7puej.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130703084715.GF1875@suse.de> (Mel Gorman's message of "Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:47:15 +0100")

Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> writes:

>> > I just tried replacing my sync_file_range()+fadvise() calls and instead
>> > pass the O_DIRECT flag to open(). Unfortunately, I must be doing
>> > something very wrong, because I get only 1/3rd of the throughput, and
>> > the page cache fills up. Any idea why ?
>> 
>> Since O_DIRECT does not seem to provide acceptable throughput, it may be
>> interesting to investigate other ways to lessen the latency impact of
>> the fadvise DONTNEED hint.
>> 
>
> There are cases where O_DIRECT falls back to buffered IO which is why you
> might have found that page cache was still filling up. There are a few
> reasons why this can happen but I would guess the common cause is that
> the range of pages being written was in the page cache already and could
> not be invalidated for some reason. I'm guessing this is the common case
> for page cache filling even with O_DIRECT but would not bet money on it
> as it's not a problem I investigated before.

Even when O_DIRECT falls back to buffered I/O for writes, it will
invalidate the page cache range described by the buffered I/O once it
completes.  For reads, the range is written out synchronously before the
direct I/O is issued.  Either way, you shouldn't see the page cache
filling up.

Switching to O_DIRECT often incurs a performance hit, especially if the
application does not submit more than one I/O at a time.  Remember,
you're not getting readahead, and you're not getting the benefit of the
writeback code submitting batches of I/O.

HTH,
Jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-03 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <51BE1828.3060206@gmail.com>
2013-06-17 14:13 ` [-stable 3.8.1 performance regression] madvise POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-06-17 21:24   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-17 21:39     ` Raphaël Beamonte
     [not found]     ` <CAE_Gge34HCroSgNgiXL1j7Le3CNKRXR=7TZQhJSmY+wfWniKug@mail.gmail.com>
2013-06-17 21:57       ` [lttng-dev] " Andrew Morton
2013-06-18  2:15         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-06-18  2:44           ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-18  9:29     ` Mel Gorman
2013-06-18 10:11       ` Mel Gorman
2013-06-19 19:25         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-06-20  6:36           ` Rob van der Heij
     [not found]           ` <CAJCc=kijujORhPUmPvzHj-MMdyVbf-iHEK0Jx-VHbTO8q4ESFA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-06-20 12:20             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-06-25  1:56               ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-02 13:58                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-07-03  0:55                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-07-03  8:47                     ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-03 14:53                       ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2013-07-04  0:03                         ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-04  0:31                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-07-04 21:11                             ` Rob van der Heij
2013-07-05  1:42                             ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-05  2:34                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-07-03 18:47                       ` Yannick Brosseau
2013-07-05 14:18                         ` Mel Gorman

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