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From: Alex Zhuravlev <Alex.Zhuravlev@Sun.COM>
To: lustre-devel@lists.lustre.org
Subject: [Lustre-devel] statahead feature
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:17:04 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <488961D0.9060709@sun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <37e3b1470807242204x6ab9037bif384e8a37595b6c6@mail.gmail.com>

Ragnar Kj?rstad wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Alex Zhuravlev <Alex.Zhuravlev@sun.com> wrote:
>> no, I don't think we need lock always: you just did getattr and fill inode
>> with fresh attributes, then you release lock, somebody changes attributes
>> on the server and only then userspace application gets attributes (already
>> non-fresh). so, what lock gives you in this case?
> 
> If I have an application that does:
> 1. Update stat data on one node.
> 2. Barrier
> 3. Read the same stat data on a different node
> 
> I should be guaranteed to get the correct data, right?
> So stat should return data that was valid either when the system call
> started, when it ended, or somewhere in between. (not data that was
> invalid even before the systemcall started)

indeed. we can't use this trick in all the cases. I think it's a subject
of discussion what we consider a barrier, for regular stat(2) it can be
start of system call. for ls -l case it can be open(2). isn't this a
reasonable cost for significant performance improvement of ls -l ?

my understanding is that for NFS with readdir+ support, the barrier will
be open(2).

thanks for this good point, Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-25  5:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-24 10:19 [Lustre-devel] statahead feature Alex Zhuravlev
2008-07-24 11:35 ` Alex Lyashkov
2008-07-24 16:27 ` Peter Braam
2008-07-24 18:56   ` Alex Zhuravlev
2008-07-25  4:34 ` Yong Fan
2008-07-25  4:41   ` Alex Zhuravlev
2008-07-25  5:04     ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2008-07-25  5:17       ` Alex Zhuravlev [this message]
2008-07-28 22:02       ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-25  9:37     ` Alex Lyashkov
2008-07-25 12:29       ` Alex Zhuravlev
2008-07-25 19:41       ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-25 19:50         ` Alex Zhuravlev
2008-07-25  4:44   ` Alex Zhuravlev

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