Re: [mlmmj] testing mlmmj using Sendmail on a CentOS server

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:) It was a PITB to get this figured out, so I did take the time to 
write it up, in case it would help someone else down the road.

I agree that sendmail isn't necessarily a good choice to start with, but 
it's still the default MTA on a lot of canned virtual servers that are 
made available - like the one we use from eapps.com - so I didn't want 
to wade into changing something that was already otherwise working Ok on 
the server (and supported by eapps.com).

In hindsight it might have been easier to simply get Postfix or Exim 
installed and running, but hindsight is always 20-20 :)

Philip

On 10/17/2014 1:41 PM, Ben Schmidt wrote:
>> Have been away for a while. The following are some facts about my
>> system setup :
>>
>> openSUSE 12.3 : Sendmail 8.14.5-85.1.2
>>
>> The config files are located /usr/share/sendmail, so cd to there
>>
>> README has the following :
>> LOCAL_SHELL_FLAGS       [eu9] The flags used by the shell mailer.  The
>>                          flags lsDFMoq are always included.
>
> The Mlmmj reference for this is <http://mlmmj.org/docs/readme-sendmail/>
> which suggests setting LOCAL_SHELL_FLAGS to 'eu9P' (i.e. the default,
> plus 'P').
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> A Sendmail reference for what the flags mean is
> <http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/doc8.8/op-sh-5.html#sh-5.4>
>
>> cd feature/; grep LOCAL_SHELL_FLAGS * shows :
>> msp.m4:define(`LOCAL_SHELL_FLAGS', `lmDFMuXk5')dnl
>>
>> Note the absence of a 'P' in the README reference - and the 
>> disconcerting use of
>> flags in file msp.m4 that are not noted in the README.
>
> Googling suggests the 'msp' feature is the 'mail submission program'. I
> have no idea why it's defining LOCAL_SHELL_FLAGS, but I also know next
> to nothing about m4 or Sendmail (and have no real inclination to learn
> more), so for all I know, it could be a different scope.
>
>> So where is the all important Return-Path documented and set? I have 
>> 'grep -i
>> return-path *' till I am blue in the face and have not found anything 
>> that helps
>> me. <sigh>
>
> It took me quite a while to find the references above, too....
> Sendmail's documentation is pretty esoteric. I feel like unless you
> already know what you're looking for, you don't know where to even look
> for it.... I vastly prefer Postfix and Exim, both of which I have set up
> in very little time, including with Mlmmj. In my experience, Qmail and
> Sendmail are both significantly harder to get working, and if there's
> any real benefit once they're up and running, it's lost on me!
>
> Smiles,
>
> Ben.
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