From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mta1.migadu.com (out-241.mta1.migadu.com [95.215.58.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 280B62E1746 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2026 06:22:45 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=95.215.58.241 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1788416567; cv=none; b=urK7zScgzRsaKtHktaKXZwak0GB1X+KANKkFObbfqZQRji+XBHk/afKrPFTlhCkaLiNyEsMqWmEWIAp/qjTVG88Fdzomr7oXJW8+g2DPBF8sQMAZWdYr5AMRbrjJuCHr0hdp26jnVBgDukYpcMS3JUYOVNa1QVy4/EguJUBWJ/g= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1788416567; c=relaxed/simple; bh=FQlQWjQ9Md/mS5BiLT5g6G2CjEDfXp1y/3w8XnEjXQk=; h=MIME-Version:Date:Content-Type:From:Message-ID:Subject:To: In-Reply-To:References; b=DmZX98jMVn8+JgcsdUkEhXq+6xnx2SjacvScHS7Hd0pcoHeGc+Gbenp9wDGEbFB0ISbWEorOKbk/CK6kNXJKQr8qrlmmXUV56zR4y4mY6cK8KKIAGzUcASD+yM3hEwfVso8I1V9V4E6bZPPkTO9yr0XMSBeOXw1pkU5Ct+TNcJ8= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=linux.dev; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=linux.dev; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linux.dev header.i=@linux.dev header.b=XWS7maVm; arc=none smtp.client-ip=95.215.58.241 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=linux.dev Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=linux.dev Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linux.dev header.i=@linux.dev header.b="XWS7maVm" X-Envelope-To: mptcp@lists.linux.dev DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; bh=FQlQWjQ9Md/mS5BiLT5g6G2CjEDfXp1y/3w8XnEjXQk=; c=simple/simple; d=linux.dev; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=key1; t=1788416564; v=1; x=1789021364; b=XWS7maVmkyXlD1mA68Q4XV+eIpdYbuq3kIhIQxsafMOuCU7dYXrGyFzrEvVG11NuO1KWXDi5 qt7339ilwlpATHcTudseNBjEe6TKTvwe/I8aRUeJfVmvD8rCgiYU/VvrV5ktjCxDS634dtkTk9u hV/dJXwZLsAOVjMeQg20PlPc= X-Envelope-To: mptcp@lists.linux.dev Received: by smtp.migadu.com with ESMTPS id 868cb4d387e5504a; Thu, 03 Sep 2026 06:22:44 +0000 X-Mizu-Trace-ID: 868cb4d387e5504a X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: mptcp@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2026 06:22:43 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: gang.yan@linux.dev Message-ID: <2e771c1355c7d5d3faf42feed55ced63bc5869cb@linux.dev> TLS-Required: No Subject: Re: [RFC] Mitigating Sashiko-driven iteration noise on the main MPTCP list To: mptcp@lists.linux.dev In-Reply-To: References: September 3, 2026 at 2:12 PM, gang.yan@linux.dev mailto:gang.yan@linux.de= v wrote: >=20 >=20 I believe both sides will benefit clearly if the sashiko process is = mitigated: >=20 >=20 1. For reviewers/maintainers: Their main list inbox will only contai= n two types of patches=E2=80=94brand new > submissions (v1) and "mature" patches that have already passed the bot= 's checks. This drastically > reduces noise and allows them to focus their limited reviewing bandwid= th on patches that are truly > ready for human scrutiny. > 2. For contributors: They can iterate as fast and as often as they wan= t in the sub=E2=80=91list without feeling > guilty about flooding the main list. They get a "safe sandbox" to poli= sh the series until it meets > the bot's criteria. When they finally post to the main list, the patch= is already in a much better > state, which should also speed up the human review process. >=20 Having=20said that, I realize this might be an overdesign. If anyone else= is bothered by the sashiko process in a similar way, please leave messages under this thread, maybe we can f= ind a lighter approach. > I want to stress that this is not a complaint or a demand. I fully resp= ect the work that has gone into > Sashiko and the current process. >=20 >=20Looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts. >=20 >=20Thanks > Gang >