From: Matthieu Baerts <matttbe@kernel.org>
To: Mat Martineau <martineau@kernel.org>
Cc: MPTCP Upstream <mptcp@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mptcp-net v2 1/2] mptcp: pm: avoid sending RM_ADDR over same subflow
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2026 08:39:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7e7ce1cb-2645-467d-855d-65258f9d2981@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e46338e-5f27-69fa-a3bd-7dbc7674a275@kernel.org>
Hi Mat,
On 25/02/2026 17:57, Mat Martineau wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2026, Matthieu Baerts wrote:
>
>> Hi Mat,
>>
>> Thank you for the review!
>>
>> On 25/02/2026 05:12, Mat Martineau wrote:
>>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2026, Matthieu Baerts (NGI0) wrote:
>>>
>>>> RM_ADDR are sent over an active subflow, the first one in the subflows
>>>> list. There is then a high chance the initial subflow is picked. With
>>>> the in-kernel PM, when an endpoint is removed, a RM_ADDR is sent, then
>>>> linked subflows are closed. This is done for each active MPTCP
>>>> connection.
>>>>
>>>> MPTCP endpoints are likely removed because the attached network is no
>>>> longer available or usable. In this case, it is better to avoid sending
>>>> this RM_ADDR over the subflow that is going to be removed, but prefer
>>>> sending it over another active and non stale subflow, if any.
>>>>
>>>> This modification avoids situations where the other end is not notified
>>>> when a subflow is no longer usable: typically when the endpoint linked
>>>> to the initial subflow is removed, especially on the server side.
>>
>> (...)
>>
>>> This is definitely an improvement over the older code, thanks! It does
>>> still send RM_ADDR exactly once. It could also RM_ADDR using *all*
>>> active non-stale subflows (any that are delivered after the first would
>>> be ignored). In terms of interoperability there is the risk of confusing
>>> the peer's path manager if it doesn't handle RM_ADDR for a non-existant
>>> subflow.
>>>
>>> Maybe that's more of a mptcp-next feature (if it makes sense to do at
>>> all).
>>
>> I think implementing this would definitively be mptcp-next material. If
>> we want this, we will also need to change the way the option is added:
>> for the moment, the rm_list is copied in the msk, and a bit is set
>> before triggering the ACK, and when sending the ACK, the bit is reset.
>> So we would need to also record the subflow IDs that should send the
>> RM_ADDR, and only remove the main bit when all of subflows have sent it.
>>
>> Now regarding the behaviour, I think it more likely to have concurrent
>> issues: maybe a subflow could be re-created or an ADD_ADDR could be
>> received before all RM_ADDR are transmitted, e.g. in case of bufferbloat
>> on one path?
>>
>>> The v2 patch here is closer to the existing behavior so I'm ok with
>>> approving it:
>>>
>>> Reviewed-by: Mat Martineau <martineau@kernel.org>
>>
>> Thanks! Is this tag also covering patch 2/2?
>>
>
> Yes, I had intended to reply to the cover letter to RvB the series.
> Thanks for clarifying.
Great, just applied:
New patches for t/upstream-net and t/upstream:
- 2f79a7def595: mptcp: pm: avoid sending RM_ADDR over same subflow
- c4a9449065db: selftests: mptcp: join: check RM_ADDR not sent over same
subflow
- Results: 4a4900c134dd..652750a9d6a6 (export-net)
- Results: 5e61492ae392..d3854ef490c9 (export)
Tests are now in progress:
- export-net:
https://github.com/multipath-tcp/mptcp_net-next/commit/f7b905d300ce1fb82367bb2e069fa067c4ae0d49/checks
- export:
https://github.com/multipath-tcp/mptcp_net-next/commit/07e1c275611e95ade08509cf5eeb2c39f181d116/checks
Cheers,
Matt
--
Sponsored by the NGI0 Core fund.
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Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-20 11:25 [PATCH mptcp-net v2 0/2] mptcp: pm: avoid sending RM_ADDR over the same subflow Matthieu Baerts (NGI0)
2026-02-20 11:25 ` [PATCH mptcp-net v2 1/2] mptcp: pm: avoid sending RM_ADDR over " Matthieu Baerts (NGI0)
2026-02-25 4:12 ` Mat Martineau
2026-02-25 12:18 ` Matthieu Baerts
2026-02-25 16:57 ` Mat Martineau
2026-02-26 7:39 ` Matthieu Baerts [this message]
2026-02-20 11:25 ` [PATCH mptcp-net v2 2/2] selftests: mptcp: join: check RM_ADDR not sent " Matthieu Baerts (NGI0)
2026-02-20 12:42 ` [PATCH mptcp-net v2 0/2] mptcp: pm: avoid sending RM_ADDR over the " MPTCP CI
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