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From: Gur Stavi <gur.stavi@huawei.com>
To: 'Willem de Bruijn' <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: <davem@davemloft.net>, <edumazet@google.com>, <kuba@kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <pabeni@redhat.com>, <shuah@kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH net-next v02 1/2] af_packet: allow fanout_add when socket is not RUNNING
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2024 19:14:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <000101db1b2f$7410c2f0$5c3248d0$@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6707e3028d844_20573a294f0@willemb.c.googlers.com.notmuch>

> Gur Stavi wrote:
> > > Gur Stavi wrote:
> > > > > Gur Stavi wrote:
> > > > > > >> @@ -1846,21 +1846,21 @@ static int fanout_add(struct sock
> *sk,
> > > > > struct fanout_args *args)
> > > > > > >>  	err = -EINVAL;
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>  	spin_lock(&po->bind_lock);
> > > > > > >> -	if (packet_sock_flag(po, PACKET_SOCK_RUNNING) &&
> > > > > > >> -	    match->type == type &&
> > > > > > >> +	if (match->type == type &&
> > > > > > >>  	    match->prot_hook.type == po->prot_hook.type &&
> > > > > > >>  	    match->prot_hook.dev == po->prot_hook.dev) {
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Remaining unaddressed issue is that the socket can now be
> added
> > > > > > > before being bound. See comment in v1.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I extended the psock_fanout test with unbound fanout test.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As far as I understand, the easiest way to verify bind is to
> test
> > > that
> > > > > > po->prot_hook.dev != NULL, since we are under a bind_lock
> anyway.
> > > > > > But perhaps a more readable and direct approach to test "bind"
> > > would be
> > > > > > to test po->ifindex != -1, as ifindex is commented as "bound
> > > device".
> > > > > > However, at the moment ifindex is not initialized to -1, I can
> add
> > > such
> > > > > > initialization, but perhaps I do not fully understand all the
> > > logic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any preferences?
> > > > >
> > > > > prot_hook.dev is not necessarily set if a packet socket is bound.
> > > > > It may be bound to any device. See dev_add_pack and ptype_head.
> > > > >
> > > > > prot_hook.type, on the other hand, must be set if bound and is
> only
> > > > > modified with the bind_lock held too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, and in packet_create. But setsockopt PACKET_FANOUT_ADD also
> > > > > succeeds in case bind() was not called explicitly first to bind
> to
> > > > > a specific device or change ptype.
> > > >
> > > > Please clarify the last paragraph? When you say "also succeeds" do
> you
> > > > mean SHOULD succeed or MAY SUCCEED by mistake if "something"
> happens
> > > ???
> > >
> > > I mean it succeeds currently. Which behavior must then be maintained.
> > >
> > > > Do you refer to the following scenario: socket is created with non-
> zero
> > > > protocol and becomes RUNNING "without bind" for all devices. In
> that
> > > case
> > > > it can be added to FANOUT without bind. Is that considered a bug or
> > > does
> > > > the bind requirement for fanout only apply for all-protocol (0)
> > > sockets?
> > >
> > > I'm beginning to think that this bind requirement is not needed.
> >
> > I agree with that. I think that is an historical mistake that socket
> > becomes implicitly bound to all interfaces if a protocol is defined
> > during create. Without this bind requirement would make sense.
> >
> > >
> > > All type and dev are valid, even if an ETH_P_NONE fanout group would
> > > be fairly useless.
> >
> > Fanout is all about RX, I think that refusing fanout for socket that
> > will not receive any packet is OK. The condition can be:
> > if (po->ifindex == -1 || !po->num)
> 
> Fanout is not limited to sockets bound to a specific interface.
> This will break existing users.

For specific interface ifindex >= 1
For "any interface" ifindex == 0
ifindex is -1 only if the socket was created unbound with proto == 0
or for the rare race case that during re-bind the new dev became unlisted.
For both of these cases fanout should fail.

> 
> Binding to ETH_P_NONE is useless, but we're not going to slow down
> legitimate users with branches for cases that are harmless.
> 

With "branch", do you refer to performance or something else?
As I said in other mail, ETH_P_NONE could not be used in a fanout
before as well because socket cannot become RUNNING with proto == 0.
For performance, we removed the RUNNING condition and added this.
It is not like we need to perform 5M fanout registrations/sec. It is a
syscall after all.

> > I realized another possible problem. We should consider adding ifindex
> > Field to struct packet_fanout to be used for lookup of an existing
> match.
> > There is little sense to bind sockets to different interfaces and then
> > put them in the same fanout group.
> > If you agree, I can prepare a separate patch for that.
> >
> > > The type and dev must match that of the fanout group, and once added
> > > to a fanout group can no longer be changed (bind will fail).
> > >
> > > I briefy considered the reason might be max_num_members accounting.
> > > Since f->num_members counts running sockets. But that is not used
> > > when tracking membership of the group, sk_ref is. Every packet socket
> > > whose po->rollover is increased increases this refcount.
> > >
> > > > What about using ifindex to detect bind? Initialize it to -1 in
> > > > packet_create and ensure that packet_do_bind, on success, sets it
> > > > to device id or 0?
> > > >
> > > > psock_fanout, should probably be extended with scenarios that test
> > > > "all devices" and all/specific protocols. Any specific scenario
> > > > suggestions?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-10 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-08 10:27 [PATCH net-next v02 0/2] net: af_packet: allow joining a fanout when link is down Gur Stavi
2024-10-08 10:27 ` [PATCH net-next v02 1/2] af_packet: allow fanout_add when socket is not RUNNING Gur Stavi
2024-10-08 14:26   ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-10-09  6:58     ` Gur Stavi
2024-10-09 13:51       ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-10-09 18:03         ` Gur Stavi
2024-10-10  0:30           ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-10-10  7:08             ` Gur Stavi
2024-10-10 14:21               ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-10-10 16:14                 ` Gur Stavi [this message]
2024-10-10 22:12                   ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-10-11  5:17                     ` Gur Stavi
2024-10-11 14:24                       ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-10-11  9:02                     ` Gur Stavi
2024-10-11 14:35                       ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-10-11 17:12                         ` Gur Stavi
2024-10-11 19:08                           ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-10-10 11:49             ` Gur Stavi
2024-10-08 10:27 ` [PATCH net-next v02 2/2] selftests: net/psock_fanout: socket joins fanout when link is down Gur Stavi

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