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From: "Pengcheng Yang" <yangpc@wangsu.com>
To: "'Neal Cardwell'" <ncardwell@google.com>
Cc: "'Yuchung Cheng'" <ycheng@google.com>,
	"'Netdev'" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'Eric Dumazet'" <edumazet@google.com>
Subject: Re: tcp: rearm RTO timer does not comply with RFC6298
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 18:01:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <028901d6f0a5$9cb75920$d6260b60$@wangsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADVnQy=jwBHg_Pf+puzxTCOCKxZJU2uThAuXU9CtkWFxtqU69w@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 11:51 PM Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 9:05 AM Pengcheng Yang <yangpc@wangsu.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 2:59 AM Yuchung Cheng <ycheng@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 6:59 AM Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:50 AM Pengcheng Yang <yangpc@wangsu.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a doubt about tcp_rearm_rto().
> > > > >
> > > > > Early TCP always rearm the RTO timer to NOW+RTO when it receives
> > > > > an ACK that acknowledges new data.
> > > > >
> > > > > Referring to RFC6298 SECTION 5.3: "When an ACK is received that
> > > > > acknowledges new data, restart the retransmission timer so that
> > > > > it will expire after RTO seconds (for the current value of RTO)."
> > > > >
> > > > > After ER and TLP, we rearm the RTO timer to *tstamp_of_head+RTO*
> > > > > when switching from ER/TLP/RACK to original RTO in tcp_rearm_rto(),
> > > > > in this case the RTO timer is triggered earlier than described in
> > > > > RFC6298, otherwise the same.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this planned? Or can we always rearm the RTO timer to
> > > > > tstamp_of_head+RTO?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is a good question. As far as I can tell, this difference in
> > > > behavior would only come into play in a few corner cases, like:
> > > >
> > > > (1) The TLP timer fires and the connection is unable to transmit a TLP
> > > > probe packet. This could happen due to memory allocation failure  or
> > > > the local qdisc being full.
> > > >
> > > > (2) The RACK reorder timer fires but the connection does not take the
> > > > normal course of action and mark some packets lost and retransmit at
> > > > least one of them. I'm not sure how this would happen. Maybe someone
> > > > can think of a case.
> >
> > Yes, and it also happens when an ACK (a cumulative ACK covered out-of-order data)
> > is received that makes ca_state change from DISORDER to OPEN, by calling tcp_set_xmit_timer().
> > Because TLP is not triggered under DISORDER and tcp_rearm_rto() is called before the
> > ca_state changes.
> 
> Hmm, that sounds like a good catch, and potentially a significant bug.
> Re-reading the code, it seems that you correctly identify that on an
> ACK when reordering is resolved (ca_state change from DISORDER to
> OPEN) we will not set a TLP timer for now+TLP_interval, but instead
> will set an RTO timer for rtx_head_tx_time+RTO (which could be very
> soon indeed, if RTTVAR is very low). Seems like that could cause
> spurious RTOs with connections that experience reordering with low RTT
> variance.
> 
> It seems like we should try to fix this. Perhaps by calling
> tcp_set_xmit_timer() only after we have settled on a final ca_state
> implied by this ACK (in this case, to allow DISORDER to be resolved to
> OPEN). Though that would require some careful surgery, since that
> would move the tcp_set_xmit_timer() call *after* the point at which
> the RACK reorder timer would be set.
> 
> Other thoughts?
> 
> neal

I think this fix is necessary. Actually, we also fixed this issue on our branch recently
when we fixed an issue where the TLP timer might not fire(Point 1 below),
by calling tcp_set_xmit_timer() after tcp_fastretrans_alert() and 
then removing FLAG_SET_XMIT_TIMER from ack_flag when the RACK 
reorder timer is set. 

This repair has two additional benefits according to my understanding:
(1) When ca_state changes from DISORDER to OPEN, the TLP timer can be activated,
otherwise, the sender can only wait for the RTO timer when it is app-limited.
(2) Reduce the xmit timer reschedule once per ACK when the RACK reorder timer is set.

I'll send this fix later, I'm not sure whether there is a more elegant way. : )


      reply	other threads:[~2021-01-22 10:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-20 10:49 tcp: rearm RTO timer does not comply with RFC6298 Pengcheng Yang
2021-01-20 14:59 ` Neal Cardwell
2021-01-20 18:58   ` Yuchung Cheng
2021-01-21 13:48     ` Pengcheng Yang
2021-01-21 15:50       ` Neal Cardwell
2021-01-22 10:01         ` Pengcheng Yang [this message]

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