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From: Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@linux.dev>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Christian Marangi <ansuelsmth@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: phy: Don't register LEDs for genphy
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 11:33:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <06710fb3-fc55-479e-b029-134f41fb93eb@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aGzduaQp3hWA5V-i@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On 7/8/25 04:58, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 07, 2025 at 03:58:03PM -0400, Sean Anderson wrote:
>> If a PHY has no driver, the genphy driver is probed/removed directly in
>> phy_attach/detach. If the PHY's ofnode has an "leds" subnode, then the
>> LEDs will be (un)registered when probing/removing the genphy driver.
> 
> Maybe checking whether the PHY driver supports LEDs would be more
> sensible than checking whether it's one of the genphy drivers?

The genphy driver is special, since it is probed synchronously from
phy_attach. All other drivers are probed asynchronously and don't have
this problem.

>> This could occur if the leds are for a non-generic driver that isn't
>> loaded for whatever reason. Synchronously removing the PHY device in
>> phy_detach leads to the following deadlock:
>> 
>> rtnl_lock()
>> ndo_close()
>>     ...
>>     phy_detach()
>>         phy_remove()
>>             phy_leds_unregister()
>>                 led_classdev_unregister()
>>                     led_trigger_set()
>>                         netdev_trigger_deactivate()
>>                             unregister_netdevice_notifier()
>>                                 rtnl_lock()
>> 
>> There is a corresponding deadlock on the open/register side of things
>> (and that one is reported by lockdep), but it requires a race while this
>> one is deterministic.
> 
> Doesn't this deadlock exist irrespective of whether the genphy driver(s)
> are being used, and whether or not the PHY driver supports LEDs?

Nope.

--Sean

      reply	other threads:[~2025-07-08 15:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-07 19:58 [PATCH net] net: phy: Don't register LEDs for genphy Sean Anderson
2025-07-07 23:32 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-08 15:52   ` Sean Anderson
2025-07-10 17:40     ` Sean Anderson
2025-07-10 17:52       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-10 18:17         ` Sean Anderson
2025-07-10 18:49           ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-10 18:57             ` Sean Anderson
2025-07-10 19:09               ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-08  8:58 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-07-08 15:33   ` Sean Anderson [this message]

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