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From: "Jiawen Wu" <jiawenwu@trustnetic.com>
To: "'Russell King \(Oracle\)'" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	<hkallweit1@gmail.com>, <Jose.Abreu@synopsys.com>,
	<mengyuanlou@net-swift.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH net-next 4/7] net: pcs: xpcs: adapt Wangxun NICs for SGMII mode
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 13:56:35 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <071c01d9c698$6d814fa0$4883eee0$@trustnetic.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZMuLKa2HX9/LiCPn@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 7:11 PM, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 10:20:22AM +0800, Jiawen Wu wrote:
> > > No there isn't, and it conforms with the above.
> > >
> > > A read looks like this:
> > >
> > >       Address  Data                   Address  Data     Data
> > > Start 10101100 000yyyyy RepeatedStart 10101101 DDDDDDDD DDDDDDDD Stop
> > >                       or Stop followed
> > > 		          by Start
> > >
> > > The terms "Address" and "Data" here are as per the I²C specification.
> > > You will notice that the first part has one byte of address and *one*
> > > byte of data to convey the register address. This is what the "1" you
> > > are referring to above is for.
> > >
> > > For completness, a write looks like this:
> > >
> > >       Address  Data     Data     Data
> > > Start 10101100 000yyyyy DDDDDDDD DDDDDDDD Stop
> > >
> > > Essentially, in all cases, when 0x56 is addressed with the data
> > > direction in write mode, the very first byte is _always_ the register
> > > address and the remainder contain the data. When the data direction is
> > > in read mode, the bytes are always data.
> > >
> > > The description you quote above is poor because it doesn't make it
> > > clear whether "read" and "write" apply to the bus transactions or to
> > > the device operations. However, I can assure you that what is
> > > implemented is correct, since this is the standard small 24xx memory
> > > device protocol, and I've been programming that on various
> > > microcontrollers and such like for the last 30 years.
> > >
> > > Are you seeing a problem with the data read or written to the PHY?
> >
> > Hi Russell,
> >
> > I really don't know how to deal with "MAC side SGMII", could you please
> > help me?
> >
> > From the test results, when I config PCS in "PHY side SGMII", the link status
> > of PHY in copper SFP is read by I2C after AN complete. Then PHY's link up
> > status is informed to PHYLINK, then PCS will check its status. But when I just
> > change PCS to "MAC side SGMII", I2C will keep reading timeouts since AN
> > complete. I checked the register of PCS to confirm AN complete, but PHY's
> > link status would never be updated in PHYLINK.
> 
> I don't understand what is going on here either - but what I do know
> is that there is _zero_ difference as far as the network link is
> concerned between an on-board PHY using SGMII to the MAC/PCS and a SFP
> with a PHY using SGMII.
> 
> In both situations the PHY behaves the same - it presents a PHY-side
> SGMII interface, so it sends to the MAC/PCS the speed and duplex
> settings, and expects the MAC/PCS to acknowledge them.
> 
> The name "MAC side SGMII" suggests that this mode provides the
> acknowledgement, whereas "PHY side SGMII" suggests that this mode
> provides a speed and duplex.
> 
> Given all this, using "PHY side SGMII" with a SFP, and "MAC side
> SGMII" for an on-board PHY just seems utterly wrong - and I can't
> make head nor tail of it.

Since no reasonable explanation can be given, can we assume that there is a
design flaw in the hardware? Although it's not clear to the designers...

> 
> > It's kind of weird to me, how does the configuration of PCS relate to I2C?
> 
> I2C is just the access method for PHYs on SFPs - because there are
> no MDIO bus pins on SFP modules, only I2C pins mainly for accessing
> the identification EEPROM and diagnostics, but many copper SFPs have
> a way to access the PHY.
> 
> I2C is transparent as far as phylib is concerned - the mdio-i2c
> driver makes the PHY "appear" as if it is on a conventional MDIO
> bus.
 


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-04  5:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-24 10:23 [PATCH net-next 0/7] support more link mode for TXGBE Jiawen Wu
2023-07-24 10:23 ` [PATCH net-next 1/7] net: pcs: xpcs: add specific vendor supoprt for Wangxun 10Gb NICs Jiawen Wu
2023-07-25 17:24   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-07-24 10:23 ` [PATCH net-next 2/7] net: pcs: xpcs: support to switch mode for Wangxun NICs Jiawen Wu
2023-07-25 17:32   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-07-26  2:40     ` Jiawen Wu
2023-07-24 10:23 ` [PATCH net-next 3/7] net: pcs: xpcs: add 1000BASE-X AN interrupt support Jiawen Wu
2023-07-24 10:23 ` [PATCH net-next 4/7] net: pcs: xpcs: adapt Wangxun NICs for SGMII mode Jiawen Wu
2023-07-24 10:34   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-07-25  2:05     ` Jiawen Wu
2023-07-25  7:48       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-07-25  9:50         ` Jiawen Wu
2023-07-25  9:58           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-07-25 10:08             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-07-25 10:45               ` Jiawen Wu
2023-07-28 10:11               ` Jiawen Wu
2023-07-28 10:24                 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-07-31  1:47                   ` Jiawen Wu
2023-07-28 10:33                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-07-31  1:58                   ` Jiawen Wu
2023-08-03  2:20                   ` Jiawen Wu
2023-08-03 11:10                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-08-04  5:56                       ` Jiawen Wu [this message]
2023-07-25 17:37   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-07-26 12:14   ` Simon Horman
2023-07-24 10:23 ` [PATCH net-next 5/7] net: txgbe: support switching mode to 1000BASE-X and SGMII Jiawen Wu
2023-07-24 10:40   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-07-25  2:29     ` Jiawen Wu
2023-07-24 10:23 ` [PATCH net-next 6/7] net: txgbe: support copper NIC with external PHY Jiawen Wu
2023-07-24 10:43   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-07-25  2:41     ` Jiawen Wu
2023-07-25  8:02       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-07-25 10:04         ` Jiawen Wu
2023-07-25 10:38           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-07-26 12:15   ` Simon Horman
2023-07-24 10:23 ` [PATCH net-next 7/7] net: ngbe: move mdio access registers to libwx Jiawen Wu

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