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From: Michal Luczaj <mhal@rbox.co>
To: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>
Cc: Jiayuan Chen <mrpre@163.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Jakub Sitnicki <jakub@cloudflare.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>, Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>, Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>, Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Cong Wang <cong.wang@bytedance.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf v3 5/5] bpf, sockmap: Adapt for af_unix-specific lock
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2026 00:43:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <08c824b0-cfbb-40ca-b976-9fbd41e5e855@rbox.co> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ae86a1e5-769c-44d8-ad7e-ad724800e9e4@linux.dev>

On 3/31/26 02:20, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
> On 3/30/26 4:03 PM, Michal Luczaj wrote:
>> On 3/26/26 07:26, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
>>> On 3/15/26 4:58 PM, Michal Luczaj wrote:
>>>>> Beside, from looking at the may_update_sockmap(), I don't know if it is
>>>>> even doable (or useful) to bpf_map_update_elem(unix_sk) in
>>>>> tc/flow_dissector/xdp. One possible path is the SOCK_FILTER when looking
>>>>> at unix_dgram_sendmsg() => sk_filter(). It was not the original use case
>>>>> when the bpf_map_update_elem(sockmap) support was added iirc.
>>>>
>>>> What about a situation when unix_sk is stored in a sockmap, then tc prog
>>>> looks it up and invokes bpf_map_update_elem(unix_sk)? I'm not sure it's
>>>> useful, but seems doable.
>>>
>>> [ Sorry for the late reply ]
>>>
>>> It is a bummer that the bpf_map_update_elem(unix_sk) path is possible
>>> from tc :(
>>>
>>> Then unix_state_lock() in its current form cannot be safely acquired in
>>> sock_map_update_elem(). It is currently a spin_lock() instead of
>>> spin_lock_bh().
>>
>> Is there a specific deadlock you have in your mind?
> 
> e.g. unix_stream_connect() is taking unix_state_lock(). Can a tc's 
> ingress bpf prog call unix_state_lock()?

Ah, right, that's the problem, thanks for explaining.

But, as I've asked in the parallel thread, do we really need to take the
unix_state_lock() in sock_map_update_elem()? Taking it in
sock_map_update_elem_sys() fixes the null-ptr-deref and does not lead to a
deadlock. Taking unix_state_lock() in sock_map_update_elem() seems
unnecessary. Well, at least under the assumption progs can only access
unix_sk via the sockmap lookup.

>> ...
>> And sock_{map,hash}_seq_show() (being a part of bpf iter machinery) needs
>> to take lock_sock() just as well? Would that require a special-casing
>> (unix_state_lock()) for af_unix?
> 
> I would think so for lock_sock() considering the current bh_lock_sock 
> without !sock_owned_by_user() usage is incorrect in 
> sock_map_update_elem(). [ this probably should be a separate issue for 
> another patch ]

All right, leaving that for later.

> Some more side-tracking... from looking at the code, the bpf_iter of 
> sock_{map,hash} can do bpf_map_lookup_elem(&sock_map, ...). This 
> bpr_iter program probably will be failed to load because the 
> bpf_sk_release() is not available.

I think ability to bpf_map_lookup_elem(sockmap) was added way before bpf
iter in
https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20200429181154.479310-2-jakub@cloudflare.com/
and iter "allows" it somewhat accidentally. Would you rather have it
explicitly dropped?

> I still don't have good idea what to do with the tc's prog calling 
> sock_map_update_elem().


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-31 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-05 23:30 [PATCH bpf v3 0/5] bpf, sockmap: Fix af_unix null-ptr-deref in proto update Michal Luczaj
2026-03-05 23:30 ` [PATCH bpf v3 1/5] bpf, sockmap: Annotate af_unix sock::sk_state data-races Michal Luczaj
2026-03-06  5:30   ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-03-06  6:24   ` [PATCH bpf v3 1/5] bpf, sockmap: Annotate af_unix sock^sk_state data-races Jiayuan Chen
2026-03-18 17:05   ` [PATCH bpf v3 1/5] bpf, sockmap: Annotate af_unix sock::sk_state data-races Michal Luczaj
2026-03-05 23:30 ` [PATCH bpf v3 2/5] bpf, sockmap: Use sock_map_sk_{acquire,release}() where open-coded Michal Luczaj
2026-03-06  5:44   ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-03-06 14:05     ` Michal Luczaj
2026-03-11  4:17       ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-03-11  4:57         ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-03-15 23:58           ` Michal Luczaj
2026-03-05 23:30 ` [PATCH bpf v3 3/5] bpf, sockmap: Fix af_unix iter deadlock Michal Luczaj
2026-03-06  5:47   ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-03-06  6:04   ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-03-06  6:15     ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-03-06 14:06     ` Michal Luczaj
2026-03-06 14:31       ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-03-06 14:33   ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-03-05 23:30 ` [PATCH bpf v3 4/5] selftests/bpf: Extend bpf_iter_unix to attempt deadlocking Michal Luczaj
2026-03-06 14:34   ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-03-05 23:30 ` [PATCH bpf v3 5/5] bpf, sockmap: Adapt for af_unix-specific lock Michal Luczaj
2026-03-06  5:01   ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-03-06 14:09     ` Michal Luczaj
2026-03-10 22:20       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2026-03-15 23:58         ` Michal Luczaj
2026-03-26  6:26           ` Martin KaFai Lau
2026-03-30 23:03             ` Michal Luczaj
2026-03-30 23:27               ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-03-31 22:43                 ` Michal Luczaj
2026-03-31 23:18                   ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-04-01 19:18                     ` Michal Luczaj
2026-03-31  0:20               ` Martin KaFai Lau
2026-03-31 22:43                 ` Michal Luczaj [this message]
2026-04-02  1:34                   ` Martin KaFai Lau

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