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From: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
To: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
Cc: "Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	"Maciej Fijalkowski" <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
	"Larysa Zaremba" <larysa.zaremba@intel.com>,
	"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
	"Song Liu" <song@kernel.org>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v1 1/2] xdp: recycle Page Pool backed skbs built from XDP frames
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 12:58:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0bc28bea-78f5-bcce-2d45-e6f6d1a7ed40@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98aa093a-e772-8882-b0e3-5895fd747e59@huawei.com>

From: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 09:09:31 +0800

> On 2023/3/3 21:26, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
>> From: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
>> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 20:44:24 +0800
>>
>>> On 2023/3/3 19:22, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
>>>> From: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
>>>> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 10:30:13 +0800
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> And they are fixed :D
>>>> No drivers currently which use Page Pool mix PP pages with non-PP. And
>>>
>>> The wireless adapter which use Page Pool *does* mix PP pages with
>>> non-PP, see below discussion:
>>>
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/156f3e120bd0757133cb6bc11b76889637b5e0a6.camel@gmail.com/
>>
>> Ah right, I remember that (also was fixed).
>> Not that I think it is correct to mix them -- for my PoV, a driver
>> shoule either give *all* its Rx buffers as PP-backed or not use PP at all.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> As Jesper already pointed out, not having a quick way to check whether
>>>> we have to check ::pp_magic at all can decrease performance. So it's
>>>> rather a shortcut.
>>>
>>> When we are freeing a page by updating the _refcount, I think
>>> we are already touching the cache of ::pp_magic.
>>
>> But no page freeing happens before checking for skb->pp_recycle, neither
>> in skb_pp_recycle() (skb_free_head() etc.)[0] nor in skb_frag_unref()[1].
> 
> If we move to per page marker, we probably do not need checking
> skb->pp_recycle.
> 
> Note both page_pool_return_skb_page() and skb_free_frag() can
> reuse the cache line triggered by per page marker checking if
> the per page marker is in the 'struct page'.

Ah, from that perspective. Yes, you're probably right, but would need to
be tested anyway. I don't see any open problems with the PP recycling
right now on the lists, but someone may try to change it one day.
Anyway, this flag is only to do a quick test. We do have
sk_buff::pfmemalloc, but this flag doesn't mean every page from this skb
was pfmemalloced.

> 
>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, I am not sure checking ::pp_magic is correct when a
>>> page will be passing between different subsystem and back to
>>> the network stack eventually, checking ::pp_magic may not be
>>> correct if this happens.
>>>
>>> Another way is to use the bottom two bits in bv_page, see:
>>> https://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg874099.html
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  	/* Allow SKB to reuse area used by xdp_frame */
>>>>>>  	xdp_scrub_frame(xdpf);
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Olek
>>>> .
>>>>
>>
>> [0] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/net/core/skbuff.c#L808
>> [1]
>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/include/linux/skbuff.h#L3385
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Olek
>> .
>>

Thanks,
Olek

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-06 12:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-01 16:03 [PATCH bpf-next v1 0/2] xdp: recycle Page Pool backed skbs built from XDP frames Alexander Lobakin
2023-03-01 16:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 1/2] " Alexander Lobakin
2023-03-01 19:08   ` kernel test robot
2023-03-01 19:18   ` kernel test robot
2023-03-02  2:30   ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-03-03 10:31     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-03-03 11:22     ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-03-03 12:44       ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-03-03 13:26         ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-03-06  1:09           ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-03-06 11:58             ` Alexander Lobakin [this message]
2023-03-07  2:50               ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-03-07 18:14                 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-03-08  6:27                   ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-03-09 16:27                     ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-03-01 16:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 2/2] xdp: remove unused {__,}xdp_release_frame() Alexander Lobakin
2023-03-03 10:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 0/2] xdp: recycle Page Pool backed skbs built from XDP frames Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-03-03 11:31   ` Alexander Lobakin

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