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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Vladislav Yasevich <vyasevich@gmail.com>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, mst@redhat.com,
	maxime.coquelin@redhat.com,
	Vladislav Yasevich <vyasevic@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC (resend) net-next 0/6] virtio-net: Add support for virtio-net header extensions
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 11:01:02 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0d9216af-e3db-e06b-f70d-d77f519c3fd4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1492274298-17362-1-git-send-email-vyasevic@redhat.com>



On 2017年04月16日 00:38, Vladislav Yasevich wrote:
> Curreclty virtion net header is fixed size and adding things to it is rather
> difficult to do.  This series attempt to add the infrastructure as well as some
> extensions that try to resolve some deficiencies we currently have.
>
> First, vnet header only has space for 16 flags.  This may not be enough
> in the future.  The extensions will provide space for 32 possbile extension
> flags and 32 possible extensions.   These flags will be carried in the
> first pseudo extension header, the presense of which will be determined by
> the flag in the virtio net header.
>
> The extensions themselves will immidiately follow the extension header itself.
> They will be added to the packet in the same order as they appear in the
> extension flags.  No padding is placed between the extensions and any
> extensions negotiated, but not used need by a given packet will convert to
> trailing padding.

Do we need a explicit padding (e.g an extension) which could be 
controlled by each side?

>
> For example:
>   | vnet mrg hdr | ext hdr | ext 1 | ext 2 | ext 5 | .. pad .. | packet data |

Just some rough thoughts:

- Is this better to use TLV instead of bitmap here? One advantage of TLV 
is that the length is not limited by the length of bitmap.
- For 1.1, do we really want something like vnet header? AFAIK, it was 
not used by modern NICs, is this better to pack all meta-data into 
descriptor itself? This may need a some changes in tun/macvtap, but 
looks more PCIE friendly.

Thanks

>
> Extensions proposed in this series are:
>   - IPv6 fragment id extension
>     * Currently, the guest generated fragment id is discarded and the host
>       generates an IPv6 fragment id if the packet has to be fragmented.  The
>       code attempts to add time based perturbation to id generation to make
>       it harder to guess the next fragment id to be used.  However, doing this
>       on the host may result is less perturbation (due to differnet timing)
>       and might make id guessing easier.  Ideally, the ids generated by the
>       guest should be used.  One could also argue that we a "violating" the
>       IPv6 protocol in the if the _strict_ interpretation of the spec.
>
>   - VLAN header acceleration
>     * Currently virtio doesn't not do vlan header acceleration and instead
>       uses software tagging.  One of the first things that the host will do is
>       strip the vlan header out.  When passing the packet the a guest the
>       vlan header is re-inserted in to the packet.  We can skip all that work
>       if we can pass the vlan data in accelearted format.  Then the host will
>       not do any extra work.  However, so far, this yeilded a very small
>       perf bump (only ~1%).  I am still looking into this.
>
>   - UDP tunnel offload
>     * Similar to vlan acceleration, with this extension we can pass additional
>       data to host for support GSO with udp tunnel and possible other
>       encapsulations.  This yeilds a significant perfromance improvement
>      (still testing remote checksum code).
>
> An addition extension that is unfinished (due to still testing for any
> side-effects) is checksum passthrough to support drivers that set
> CHECKSUM_COMPLETE.  This would eliminate the need for guests to compute
> the software checksum.
>
> This series only takes care of virtio net.  I have addition patches for the
> host side (vhost and tap/macvtap as well as qemu), but wanted to get feedback
> on the general approach first.
>
> Vladislav Yasevich (6):
>    virtio-net: Remove the use the padded vnet_header structure
>    virtio-net: make header length handling uniform
>    virtio_net: Add basic skeleton for handling vnet header extensions.
>    virtio-net: Add support for IPv6 fragment id vnet header extension.
>    virtio-net: Add support for vlan acceleration vnet header extension.
>    virtio-net: Add support for UDP tunnel offload and extension.
>
>   drivers/net/virtio_net.c        | 132 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
>   include/linux/skbuff.h          |   5 ++
>   include/linux/virtio_net.h      |  91 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>   include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h |  38 ++++++++++++
>   4 files changed, 242 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-18  3:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-15 16:38 [PATCH RFC (resend) net-next 0/6] virtio-net: Add support for virtio-net header extensions Vladislav Yasevich
2017-04-15 16:38 ` [PATCH RFC (resend) net-next 1/6] virtio-net: Remove the use the padded vnet_header structure Vladislav Yasevich
2017-04-15 16:38 ` [PATCH RFC (resend) net-next 2/6] virtio-net: make header length handling uniform Vladislav Yasevich
2017-04-15 16:38 ` [PATCH RFC (resend) net-next 3/6] virtio_net: Add basic skeleton for handling vnet header extensions Vladislav Yasevich
2017-04-18  2:52   ` Jason Wang
2017-04-15 16:38 ` [PATCH RFC (resend) net-next 4/6] virtio-net: Add support for IPv6 fragment id vnet header extension Vladislav Yasevich
2017-04-15 16:38 ` [PATCH RFC (resend) net-next 5/6] virtio-net: Add support for vlan acceleration " Vladislav Yasevich
2017-04-16  0:28   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-04-18  2:54   ` Jason Wang
2017-04-15 16:38 ` [PATCH RFC (resend) net-next 6/6] virtio: Add support for UDP tunnel offload and extension Vladislav Yasevich
2017-04-18  3:01 ` Jason Wang [this message]
2017-04-20 15:34   ` [PATCH RFC (resend) net-next 0/6] virtio-net: Add support for virtio-net header extensions Vlad Yasevich
2017-04-21  4:05     ` Jason Wang
2017-04-21 13:08       ` Vlad Yasevich
2017-04-24  3:22         ` Jason Wang
2017-04-24 17:04     ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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