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From: Max Krasnyansky <maxk@qualcomm.com>
To: hadi@cyberus.ca
Cc: netdev@oss.sgi.com, syrius.ml@no-log.org,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: tun device - bug or feature? WAS(Re: IMQ / new Dummy device post.
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:18:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1084209482.758.15.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1084017322.1041.30.camel@jzny.localdomain>

On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 04:55, jamal wrote:
> Max, Dave, Jeff,
> 
> I get what was bothering me now - it took me a while to formulate it:
> 
> TUN_TUN_DEV dev->type is ARPHRD_PPP
> dev->type is really related to link layer header, perhaps at the low
> level if neighbor discovery works well then we have a link-headerless
> packet which gets manipulated with the correct header by some generic
> code. The combination of dev->type and dev->hard_header_len works
> together to achieve this.
> In the case of TUN_TUN_DEV, the header_len is 0 ;->
> To be of type ARPHRD_PPP, tun needs to have a header_len which is the
> size of the l2 ppp header.
> As an example, TUN_TAP_DEV is fine as type ARPHRD_ETHER and header_len
> of ETH_HLEN.
> 
> A lot of devices are abusing this system, tun is not the only one.
> 
> My suggestion is to change dev->type to ARPHRD_VOID for TUN_TUN_DEV or
> we introduce something like ARPHDR_NONE for devices with link layer
> headers of size 0.
> 
> thoughts?

I have no problem with that. I mean introducing new ARPHDR_ type.
ARPHDR_PPP was simply most appropriate for TUN that's why I picked it.
I vote for ARPHDR_NONE.

Thanks
Max

  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-10 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-19 14:22 IMQ / new Dummy device post syrius.ml
2004-04-20  2:15 ` jamal
2004-04-21  1:43   ` syrius.ml
2004-04-21 12:49     ` syrius.ml
2004-04-21 20:19       ` syrius.ml
2004-04-22 13:16         ` jamal
2004-04-22 17:43           ` syrius.ml
2004-04-23 11:29             ` jamal
2004-04-24 14:14               ` tun device - bug or feature? WAS(Re: " jamal
2004-04-26  4:38                 ` David S. Miller
2004-04-26 19:31                 ` Max Krasnyansky
2004-04-27  2:22                   ` jamal
2004-05-08 11:55                   ` jamal
2004-05-10 17:18                     ` Max Krasnyansky [this message]
2004-06-05 13:24                       ` PATCH: " jamal
2004-06-05 21:42                         ` David S. Miller

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