From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Max Krasnyansky Subject: Re: tun device - bug or feature? WAS(Re: IMQ / new Dummy device post. Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:18:02 -0700 Sender: netdev-bounce@oss.sgi.com Message-ID: <1084209482.758.15.camel@localhost> References: <1082427350.1034.70.camel@jzny.localdomain> <1082639764.1059.81.camel@jzny.localdomain> <87oepjx65r.87n053x65r@87llknx65r.message.id> <1082719745.1057.27.camel@jzny.localdomain> <1082816083.1054.32.camel@jzny.localdomain> <1083007898.7788.276.camel@localhost> <1084017322.1041.30.camel@jzny.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: netdev@oss.sgi.com, syrius.ml@no-log.org, Jeff Garzik , "David S. Miller" Return-path: To: hadi@cyberus.ca In-Reply-To: <1084017322.1041.30.camel@jzny.localdomain> Errors-to: netdev-bounce@oss.sgi.com List-Id: netdev.vger.kernel.org On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 04:55, jamal wrote: > Max, Dave, Jeff, > > I get what was bothering me now - it took me a while to formulate it: > > TUN_TUN_DEV dev->type is ARPHRD_PPP > dev->type is really related to link layer header, perhaps at the low > level if neighbor discovery works well then we have a link-headerless > packet which gets manipulated with the correct header by some generic > code. The combination of dev->type and dev->hard_header_len works > together to achieve this. > In the case of TUN_TUN_DEV, the header_len is 0 ;-> > To be of type ARPHRD_PPP, tun needs to have a header_len which is the > size of the l2 ppp header. > As an example, TUN_TAP_DEV is fine as type ARPHRD_ETHER and header_len > of ETH_HLEN. > > A lot of devices are abusing this system, tun is not the only one. > > My suggestion is to change dev->type to ARPHRD_VOID for TUN_TUN_DEV or > we introduce something like ARPHDR_NONE for devices with link layer > headers of size 0. > > thoughts? I have no problem with that. I mean introducing new ARPHDR_ type. ARPHDR_PPP was simply most appropriate for TUN that's why I picked it. I vote for ARPHDR_NONE. Thanks Max