From: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
To: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: wireless: recap of current issues (configuration)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:41:56 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1137282117.27849.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060113221935.GJ16166@tuxdriver.com>
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 17:19 -0500, John W. Linville wrote:
> Configuration
> =============
>
> Configuration seems to be coalescing around netlink. Among other
> things, this technology provides for muliticast requests and
> asynchronous event notification.
>
> The kernel should provide generic handlers for netlink
> configuraion messages, and there should be a per-device 80211_ops
> (wireless_ops? akin to ethtool_ops) structure for drivers to
> populate appropriately.
One other thing: capability. It's not enough to be able to configure
the device, user-space tools also have to know what the device is
capable of before they try touching it. Ie, which ciphers, protocols,
channels, etc. Similar to the IWRANGE ioctl that there is now. Half
the problem now is that you can't reliably tell what drivers support
which features, or how much they support a particular feature. Think of
ethernet devices and whether or not they support carrier detection,
there's absolutely no way to tell that now (unless they respond to
ethtool or MII, and some cards freeze if you touch them with MII too
often).
Dan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-14 23:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20060113195723.GB16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 21:26 ` wireless: recap of current issues (intro) John W. Linville
[not found] ` <20060113213011.GE16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 22:19 ` wireless: recap of current issues (configuration) John W. Linville
2006-01-13 22:32 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-14 1:17 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-14 9:28 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-14 13:47 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-01-14 22:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-01-15 15:20 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-15 19:05 ` Samuel Ortiz
2006-01-16 17:09 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 18:51 ` Samuel Ortiz
2006-01-16 19:06 ` John W. Linville
2006-01-16 20:16 ` Samuel Ortiz
2006-01-16 21:06 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 22:24 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-16 23:02 ` John W. Linville
2006-01-17 18:41 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-17 18:54 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-15 19:53 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-16 17:28 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 17:54 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-16 19:40 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 20:14 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-16 20:58 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 18:39 ` Dan Williams
2006-01-16 19:07 ` Samuel Ortiz
2006-01-16 19:50 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 20:10 ` Samuel Ortiz
2006-01-15 12:40 ` Stefan Rompf
2006-01-15 15:51 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-15 17:53 ` Stefan Rompf
2006-01-15 20:08 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-15 20:11 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-17 22:20 ` Stefan Rompf
2006-01-15 19:39 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-16 0:06 ` Mike Kershaw
2006-01-16 14:23 ` Jiri Benc
2006-01-16 14:55 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-16 17:33 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 18:00 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-16 20:16 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-14 0:05 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-01-14 23:41 ` Dan Williams [this message]
2006-01-15 16:18 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-15 9:35 ` feyd
[not found] ` <20060113213126.GF16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 22:20 ` wireless: recap of current issues (compatibility) John W. Linville
2006-01-13 22:33 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-14 13:44 ` Krzysztof Halasa
[not found] ` <20060113213237.GH16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 22:24 ` wireless: recap of current issues (other issues) John W. Linville
2006-01-13 22:35 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-13 23:02 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-14 22:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-01-15 0:54 ` John W. Linville
2006-01-15 1:51 ` David S. Miller
2006-01-15 11:23 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2006-01-15 15:39 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-17 23:36 ` wireless: recap of current issues (other issues / fake ethernet) Stefan Rompf
2006-01-18 16:32 ` Stuffed Crust
[not found] ` <20060113213311.GI16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 22:25 ` wireless: recap of current issues (actions) John W. Linville
2006-01-13 22:36 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-14 22:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-01-15 0:56 ` John W. Linville
2006-01-16 14:44 ` Johannes Berg
[not found] ` <20060113213200.GG16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 22:22 ` wireless: recap of current issues (stack) John W. Linville
2006-01-13 22:34 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-13 23:03 ` Chase Venters
2006-01-14 10:46 ` Simon Kelley
2006-01-14 23:29 ` Dan Williams
2006-01-14 13:51 ` Michael Buesch
2006-01-17 17:38 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-01-14 14:13 ` Ulrich Kunitz
2006-01-15 4:42 ` Pete Zaitcev
2006-01-15 10:04 ` Ulrich Kunitz
[not found] ` <43C80F9A.8020203@candelatech.com>
2006-01-13 22:49 ` wireless: recap of current issues Ben Greear
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