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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Caitlin Bestler <caitlinb@broadcom.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	kelly@au1.ibm.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: [PATCH 1/3] Rough VJ Channel Implementation - vj_core.patch
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:40:26 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1146109226.11864.37.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54AD0F12E08D1541B826BE97C98F99F143AE6C@NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com>

On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 12:30 -0700, Caitlin Bestler wrote:
> David S. Miller wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I personally think allowing sockets to trump firewall rules
> > is an acceptable relaxation of the rules in order to simplify
> > the implementation.
> 
> I agree.  I have never seen a set of netfilter rules that
> would block arbitrary packets *within* an established connection.

Intelligent or no, this does happen.  More importantly, people rely on
packet counters.  Basically I don't think we can "relax" our firewall
implementation and retain trust 8(

I started thinking about this back in January.  We could force
everything through the "slow" path when something is registered with
netfilter (similarly raw sockets, bonding, divert).  Or, we could delay
LOCAL_IN hook processing until we get to socket receive.

Delaying netfilter hook processing won't work for intelligent NICs that
write straight to mmapped buffers, but we could make that CAP_NET_RAW.

We *used* to have an nf_cache mechanism to determine exactly when the
netfilter hooks cared about a packet, but it was never used and was hard
to reconcile with connection-tracking timeouts...

Cheers,
Rusty.
-- 
 ccontrol: http://ozlabs.org/~rusty/ccontrol


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-04-27  3:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-26 19:30 [PATCH 1/3] Rough VJ Channel Implementation - vj_core.patch Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-26 19:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-04-26 22:40   ` David S. Miller
2006-04-27  3:40 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2006-04-27  4:58   ` James Morris
2006-04-27  6:16     ` David S. Miller
2006-04-27  6:17   ` David S. Miller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-04-28 23:45 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-28 17:55 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-28 22:17 ` Rusty Russell
2006-04-28 22:40   ` David S. Miller
2006-04-29  0:22     ` Rusty Russell
2006-04-29  6:46       ` David S. Miller
2006-04-28 17:02 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-28 17:18 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-04-28 17:29   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28 17:41     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-04-28 17:55       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28 19:16         ` David S. Miller
2006-04-28 19:49           ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-04-28 19:59             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28 22:00               ` David S. Miller
2006-04-29 13:54                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
     [not found]                 ` <20060429124451.GA19810@2ka.mipt.ru>
2006-05-01 21:32                   ` David S. Miller
2006-05-02  7:08                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28 19:52           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28 19:10   ` David S. Miller
2006-04-28 20:46     ` Brent Cook
2006-04-28 17:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28 19:14   ` David S. Miller
2006-04-28 15:59 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-28 16:12 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28 19:09   ` David S. Miller
2006-04-27 21:12 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-28  6:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28  7:20   ` David S. Miller
2006-04-28  7:32     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-28 18:20       ` David S. Miller
2006-04-28  8:24 ` Rusty Russell
2006-04-28 19:21   ` David S. Miller
2006-04-28 22:04     ` Rusty Russell
2006-04-28 22:38       ` David S. Miller
2006-04-29  0:10         ` Rusty Russell
2006-04-27  1:02 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-27  6:08 ` David S. Miller
2006-04-27  6:17   ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-27  6:27     ` David S. Miller
2006-04-27  6:41       ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-27  7:52         ` David S. Miller
2006-04-26 22:53 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-26 22:59 ` David S. Miller
2006-04-26 20:20 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-26 22:35 ` David S. Miller
2006-04-26 16:57 Caitlin Bestler
2006-04-26 19:23 ` David S. Miller
2006-04-26 11:47 Kelly Daly
2006-04-26  7:33 ` David S. Miller
2006-04-27  3:31   ` Kelly Daly
2006-04-27  6:25     ` David S. Miller
2006-04-27 11:51       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-04-27 20:09         ` David S. Miller
2006-04-28  6:05           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-04  2:59       ` Kelly Daly
2006-05-04 23:22         ` David S. Miller
2006-05-05  1:31           ` Rusty Russell
2006-04-26  7:59 ` David S. Miller
2006-05-04  7:28   ` Kelly Daly
2006-05-04 23:11     ` David S. Miller
2006-05-05  2:48       ` Kelly Daly
2006-05-16  1:02         ` Kelly Daly
2006-05-16  1:05           ` David S. Miller
2006-05-16  1:15             ` Kelly Daly
2006-05-16  5:16           ` David S. Miller
2006-06-22  2:05             ` Kelly Daly
2006-06-22  3:58               ` James Morris
2006-06-22  4:31                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2006-06-22  4:36                 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2006-07-08  0:05               ` David Miller

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