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From: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
To: Steve Wise <swise@opengridcomputing.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2][RFC] Network Event Notifier Mechanism
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:36:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1151008597.5392.118.camel@jzny2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1151007524.3040.48.camel@stevo-desktop>

On Thu, 2006-22-06 at 15:18 -0500, Steve Wise wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-06-22 at 15:43 -0400, jamal wrote:

> > As an example, search for NETDEV_CHANGEADDR,NETDEV_CHANGEMTU etc.
> > Actually you are probably making this too complicated. 
> 
> NETDEV_CHANGEADDR uses a notifier block, and the network subsystem calls
> call_netdevice_notifiers() when it sets an addr.  And any kernel module
> can register for these events.  That's the model I used to create the
> netevent_notifier mechanism in the patch I posted.
> 

it also gets emmited as a netlink event.

> I could add the new events to this netdevice notifier, but these aren't
> really net device events.  Their network events.  
> 

Different blocks for sure - the point is the infrastructure which
constitutes using notifiers exists. And it is joined at the hip with
netlink.


> I can indeed extend the rtnetlink stuff to add the events in question
> (neighbour mac addr change, route redirect, etc). In fact, there is
> similar functionality under the CONFIG_ARPD option to support a user
> space arp daemon.  Its not quite the same, and it doesn't cover redirect
> and routing events, just neighbour events.
> 

CONFIG_ARPD will give you all neighbor events you need. 
=> rt_redirect doesnt exist neither do route cache
creation/updates/deletions. FIB changes exist etc

> But in the case of the RDMA subsystem, the consumer of these events is
> in the kernel.  Why is it better to propagate events all the way up to
> user space, then send the event back down into the Infiniband kernel
> subsystem?  That seems very inefficient.  

Your mileage may vary. If you do it in user space you dont have to wait
for the next kernel release in case of a bug. Additionally, it allows
for more feature richness that would tend to bloat the kernel/infiniband
otherwise. 

Out of curiosity - what does RDMA NIC have that would need these events?
a route table or L2 table etc? Can you elucidate a little?

cheers,
jamal


  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-22 20:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-21 18:45 [PATCH 0/2][RFC] Network Event Notifier Mechanism Steve Wise
2006-06-21 18:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Steve Wise
2006-06-21 18:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] Core network changes to support network event notification Steve Wise
2006-06-21 19:08 ` [PATCH 0/2][RFC] Network Event Notifier Mechanism YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2006-06-22  8:57 ` David Miller
2006-06-22 13:53   ` Steve Wise
2006-06-22 15:27     ` Steve Wise
2006-06-22 19:43       ` jamal
2006-06-22 20:18         ` Steve Wise
2006-06-22 20:36           ` jamal [this message]
2006-06-22 20:58             ` Steve Wise
2006-06-22 22:14               ` jamal
2006-06-23 13:11                 ` Steve Wise
2006-06-22 20:40         ` Steve Wise
2006-06-22 20:56           ` jamal
2006-06-23 13:17             ` Steve Wise
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-06-22 22:11 Caitlin Bestler
2006-06-22 22:21 ` jamal
2006-06-22 22:58 ` David Miller
2006-06-23  0:56   ` jamal
2006-06-23 13:24     ` Steve Wise
2006-06-23 19:57       ` David Miller
2006-06-23 20:12         ` Steve Wise
2006-06-24 14:30       ` jamal
2006-06-26 14:34         ` Steve Wise
2006-06-27 12:44           ` jamal
2006-06-22 22:39 Caitlin Bestler

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