From: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
shemminger@osdl.org, mchan@broadcom.com,
jesse.brandeburg@intel.com, auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [e1000]: Remove unnecessary tx_lock
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:17:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1154819868.5517.34.camel@jzny2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060805230517.GA25468@gondor.apana.org.au>
On Sun, 2006-06-08 at 09:05 +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 12:56:42PM -0400, jamal wrote:
> >
> > > > The real risk is that the transmit routine will decide it's busy, but
> > > > at the same time an IRQ on another CPU will clean up the whole ring
> > > > and make the queue available again. Then the transmit routine exits and
> > > > says its busy, and the higher level will decide it is permanently stopped.
>
> This is exactly the scenario where the current code can fail. It is
> also exactly the one that my patch addresses.
>
So would the holding of the tx lock at the top layer/qdisc_restart level
not help?
> > I noticed that the e1000 in some cases returns NETDEV_TX_OK even when it
> > has stopped the queue. This results in wasted calls into the qdisc.
>
> Actually it's OK. qdisc_restart will return after each NETDEV_TX_OK and
> its caller will check netif_queue_stopped before calling it again.
>
yes, of course ;->
Actually the stat i captured was not related to this, rather it was the
number of times we entered qdisc_is_running and were unable to get a
packet. I am using the simple pfifo so it cant be the scheduler refusing
to give us a packet. I have a feeling it is just enthusiastic wake up of
the tx softirq. Thoughts on this? I will add checks to be sure.
> > > If we could avoid NETDEV_TX_BUSY et al. from happening, the idea is
> > > that we could eliminate all of the requeueing logic in the packet
> > > scheduler layer. It is a pipe dream from many years ago.
> >
> > Still doable IMO - maybe a motivation for something to experiment with
> > this long weekend.
>
> A precondition to eliminating it altogether is to eliminate lockless
> drivers which would be a very good thing :)
>
They have certainly complicated things.
cheers,
jamal
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-05 23:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-03 13:15 [PATCH] [e1000]: Remove unnecessary tx_lock jamal
2006-08-03 14:02 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-03 14:24 ` jamal
2006-08-03 16:36 ` Brandeburg, Jesse
2006-08-03 18:05 ` Michael Chan
2006-08-03 22:08 ` jamal
2006-08-04 0:09 ` Michael Chan
2006-08-04 1:10 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-04 8:37 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-04 10:10 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-04 10:16 ` jamal
2006-08-04 10:25 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-04 10:45 ` jamal
2006-08-05 23:04 ` jamal
2006-08-05 23:06 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-05 23:21 ` jamal
2006-08-05 23:30 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-05 16:45 ` jamal
2006-08-04 17:12 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-04 17:28 ` Michael Chan
2006-08-04 18:08 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-04 23:31 ` David Miller
2006-08-05 16:56 ` jamal
2006-08-05 23:05 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-05 23:17 ` jamal [this message]
2006-08-05 23:19 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-05 23:36 ` jamal
2006-08-06 2:51 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06 7:14 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-06 7:24 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06 7:30 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-06 7:26 ` David Miller
2006-08-06 7:36 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06 8:06 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-06 8:27 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06 9:03 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-06 9:10 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06 9:18 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-06 8:35 ` David Miller
2006-08-06 12:24 ` jamal
2006-08-06 12:33 ` jamal
2006-08-06 23:16 ` Jesse Brandeburg
2006-08-07 12:50 ` jamal
2006-08-07 15:21 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 15:40 ` jamal
2006-08-07 15:59 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 16:31 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-08-07 17:04 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 18:00 ` jamal
2006-08-07 18:47 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 19:03 ` jamal
2006-08-07 19:14 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 19:34 ` jamal
2006-08-07 20:28 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-08 0:52 ` jamal
2006-08-07 20:53 ` Brandeburg, Jesse
2006-08-08 1:07 ` jamal
2006-08-07 23:23 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-07 23:35 ` Brandeburg, Jesse
2006-08-07 23:40 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-07 16:29 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 16:36 ` jamal
2006-08-06 19:22 ` jamal
2006-08-08 1:19 ` jamal
2006-08-08 1:22 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-08 1:33 ` jamal
2006-08-08 2:17 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-08 3:10 ` jamal
2006-08-08 12:21 ` jamal
2006-08-08 12:39 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06 17:20 ` Michael Chan
2006-08-06 23:04 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-07 3:56 ` Michael Chan
2006-08-07 4:21 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-08 17:04 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-08-08 22:06 ` David Miller
2006-08-08 23:21 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-08-09 0:25 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-09 1:25 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-08-04 1:16 ` jamal
2006-08-04 1:18 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-04 1:25 ` jamal
2006-08-04 4:06 ` Michael Chan
2006-08-03 22:06 ` jamal
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2006-08-08 5:43 Brandeburg, Jesse
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