From: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
To: Michael Wu <flamingice@sourmilk.net>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
Mohamed Abbas <mabbas@linux.intel.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 3945 driver using d80211
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 15:22:31 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1155151351.5788.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200608090947.20291.flamingice@sourmilk.net>
On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 09:47 -0700, Michael Wu wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 August 2006 00:57, Johannes Berg wrote:
> > Please not, for now. We need someone pushing for fullmac features in
> > d80211, we need those anyway for embedded systems that can't afford
> > running all of it on the main CPU. While obviously Intel would benefit
> > from doing this since a lot more d80211 features would come available,
> > the greater good would be having a main-stream card that someone cares
> > about and helps making d80211 full-mac capable.
> >
> It's not that hard to generate probe, authentication, and association frames,
> and it isn't done frequently enough to stress any embedded system that can
> run linux. Doing this would let 3945 take advantage of all the d80211
> features, so why not?
>
> What level of fullmac support are we talking about? True fullmac cards (as I
> define them) do not need to use d80211. WE19 is all they need, to add
> WPA/WPA2 support. The IPW cards have a particularly unique split between
> firmware and host 802.11 duties which I haven't seen in any other cards. They
> aren't quite fullmac enough to interface with WE directly, yet they only need
> probe response handling to complete the picture. What other half-fullmac,
> half-softmac card besides the other IPW cards splits card/host 802.11 duties
> along those lines? What other splits between card and host are out there? I
> would be very reluctant to make changes to the 802.11 stack to support
> "fullmac" without evidence that other drivers need the change.
The atmel driver is somewhat of a hybrid. For fullmac cards like airo,
you just set the connection info up, let the card go, and you get back a
link event. But the atmel driver controls authentication and
association stuff; that's not done in firmware. Look at:
send_authentication_request()
send_association_request()
atmel_transmit_management_frame()
atmel_management_frame()
authenticate()
associate()
The driver has an auth/assoc state machine, receives management frames,
and sends out the next appropriate management frame based on the current
state. I think this is the reverse of ipw2100, where the firmware
handles assoc/auth but not much else, but it's still less fullmac than
airo, and more fullmac than softmac.
Dan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-09 19:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-08 21:27 3945 driver using d80211 Mohamed Abbas
2006-08-08 21:40 ` Michael Wu
2006-08-09 7:57 ` Johannes Berg
2006-08-09 14:50 ` John W. Linville
2006-08-09 16:47 ` Michael Wu
2006-08-09 17:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-09 19:22 ` Dan Williams [this message]
2006-08-09 21:07 ` Mohamed Abbas
2006-08-09 21:32 ` Simon Barber
2006-08-09 21:41 ` Simon Barber
2006-08-09 22:42 ` Michael Wu
2006-08-09 0:06 ` Jouni Malinen
2006-08-09 15:49 ` Jouni Malinen
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