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From: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
To: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
Cc: Simon Barber <simon@devicescape.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jean Tourrilhes <jt@hpl.hp.com>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: proposal for new wireless configuration API
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:06:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1155672367.19284.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200608152135.54238.mb@bu3sch.de>

On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 21:35 +0200, Michael Buesch wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 August 2006 21:27, Simon Barber wrote:
> > A further complication happens in Japan with 802.11j, and now in the USA
> > too - with 802.11y in the 3.65Ghz band - here there are some new channel
> > widths that are possible. Normally 802.11 is 20 or 22Mhz wide (20Mhz for
> > OFDM modulations - 11a/g, 22 for 11b). In Japan's 4.9Ghz band you can
> > run the OFDM at half rate, giving a 10Mhz wide channel, or at quarter
> > rate, giving a 5Mhz wide channel. Hence same frequency, different
> > channel spec. Using a channel number is the way to go. If we need
> > something to convert between the 2 it should probably be a library in
> > user space (in hostapd or wpa_supplicant) - hostapd does have this
> > today.
> >
> > It might be nice if other applications could access this data too - but
> > I don't think it needs to be inside the kernel.
> 
> We need this conversion function, as most devices tune to frequencies,
> not channels. So when a driver is instructed to tune to channel 2,
> it must call back into the 80211 stack to ask for the frequency (based
> on the current PHYMODE and the other parameters you mentioned above).
> That call should IMO not result in a call to userspace. Userspace
> should instead set flags _before_ in the stack and the conversion
> callback would act on these flags.
> That way userspace only has to tell the kernel once which frequency-band,
> half, quater freq, or whatever it wants. The actual conversion
> from channel number to freq (or the other way around) is trivial after
> that, as it's only a few ifs and elses based on some cheap flags.

As long as there's a way for userspace to convert channel <-> frequency
and back using the _same_ values as the driver is using, that's all I
care about.  I just don't want to have each userspace program have its
own library of channel/frequency mappings simply because not enough
information was exposed through the d80211 stack's API.

Dan



  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-15 20:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-15 15:28 proposal for new wireless configuration API Johannes Berg
2006-08-15 16:14 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2006-08-16  7:26   ` Johannes Berg
2006-08-15 16:29 ` Dan Williams
2006-08-15 16:38   ` Michael Buesch
2006-08-15 18:14     ` Dan Williams
2006-08-15 19:13       ` Michael Buesch
2006-08-15 19:27         ` Simon Barber
2006-08-15 19:35           ` Michael Buesch
2006-08-15 20:06             ` Dan Williams [this message]
2006-08-15 19:59         ` Dan Williams
2006-08-16  7:14           ` Johannes Berg
2006-08-17 19:39         ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-08-17 21:24           ` Michael Buesch
2006-08-17 23:29     ` Ulrich Kunitz
2006-08-18  7:12       ` Johannes Berg
2006-08-18 15:00         ` John W. Linville
2006-08-18 21:29         ` Ulrich Kunitz
2006-08-18 22:02           ` Michael Buesch
2006-08-21  7:31             ` Johannes Berg
2006-08-16  6:51   ` Johannes Berg
2006-08-16 18:02     ` Simon Barber
2006-08-17  7:19       ` Johannes Berg
2006-08-17 16:42         ` Simon Barber
2006-08-17 23:23           ` Ulrich Kunitz
2006-08-18  7:01           ` Johannes Berg
2006-08-18 16:45             ` Simon Barber
2006-08-21  6:45               ` Johannes Berg

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