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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	mchan@broadcom.com, segher@kernel.crashing.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	paulus@samba.org
Subject: Re: TG3 data corruption (TSO ?)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 11:17:32 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1157851052.31071.187.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1157848698.6877.113.camel@localhost.localdomain>


> > semantics. At least what is implemented currently on PowerPC is the
> > __raw_* versions which not only have no barriers at all (they don't even
> > order between MMIOs, for example, readl might cross writel), and do no
> > endian swap. Quite a mess of semantics if you ask me... Then there has
> 
> __writel/__readl seems more in keeping for just not locking.

Not locking... you mean not ordering I suppose. Ok, so the question is
no ordering at all (that is even between MMIO read/writes, thus a
__readl can cross a __writel), or just no ordering between MMIO and
cacheable storage ?

It's an important difference and both have their use. For example, on
PowerPC, if I completely remove barriers, I get the first semantic and I
get the ability to write combine on non-cacheable storage as a benefit
(provided we add an ioremap_wc or such, as the Guarded bit we set on
normal non-cacheable space does also prevent write combining on most
implementations). However, if I keep at least ordering between MMIOs,
then I leave an eieio in there, which is not nearly as expensive than a
full sync but will not order cacheable cs. non-cacheable. However, it
will also prevent write combine as far as I remember.

Ben.



  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-10  1:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1157704257.31071.68.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2006-09-08 15:49 ` TG3 data corruption (TSO ?) Michael Chan
2006-09-08 19:29   ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-08 19:54     ` Michael Chan
2006-09-08 21:46       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-08 22:22         ` Michael Chan
2006-09-09  9:22         ` David Miller
2006-09-09 22:36           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-10  0:38             ` Alan Cox
2006-09-10  1:17               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2006-09-11  4:53       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11  5:18         ` Michael Chan
2006-09-11  5:25           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11  5:33             ` Michael Chan
2006-09-11  5:52               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11  8:20                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 13:54                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-11 16:08                 ` Michael Chan
2006-09-08 21:41   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-08 22:07     ` Michael Chan
2006-09-08 22:25       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-08 22:40         ` Michael Chan
2006-09-08 22:49           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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