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From: Steve Wise <swise@opengridcomputing.com>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, openib-general@openib.org
Subject: Re: [openib-general] [PATCH  v2 04/13] Connection Manager
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 10:17:43 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1165335463.16087.83.camel@stevo-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1165335162.16087.79.camel@stevo-desktop>

On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 10:12 -0600, Steve Wise wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 18:59 +0300, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 09:39:58AM -0600, Steve Wise (swise@opengridcomputing.com) wrote:
> > > > Phrases like "MPA-aware TCP" rises a lot of questions - briefly saying
> > > > that hardware (even if it is called ethernet driver) can create and work
> > > > with own TCP flows potentially modified in the way it likes which is seen 
> > > > in driver. Likely such flows will not be seen by upper layers like OS 
> > > > network stack according to hardware descriptions.
> > > > 
> > > > Is it correct?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I don't quite get your point about the driver aspect of this?
> > > 
> > > The HW manages the iWARP connection including data flow.  It adheres to
> > > the MPA, RDDP, and RDMAP protocol specification IDs from the IETF.  The
> > > HW manages how data gets pushed out in the RDMA stream.   The RDMA
> > > Driver just requests a TCP connection and does the MPA exchange.  Then
> > > tells the hardware to move the connection into RDMA mode.  From that
> > > point on, the driver simply suffles IO work requests from the consumer
> > > application to the hardware and handles asynchronous events while the
> > > connection is up and running.
> > 
> > My main concern about this is the fact, that protocol handling is
> > splitted into SF and HW parts, and actually until negotiation is
> > completed those parts are completely unrelated to each other, so
> > requested TCP connection can leak into main stack and main stack can
> > send some packets which can be considered as MPA negotiation.
> > 
> 
> Ah.  Data from an offloaded connection cannot leak into the main stack
> nor vice-verse.  We can take an active RDMA connection establishment as
> an example if you want:  Once the message is sent to the HW to "setup a
> TCP connection from addr/port a.b to addr/port c.d", then packets on
> that connection (that 4-tuple) will always be delivered to the RDMA
> driver, not the native stack.  If the the packet received after the
> connection is setup is -not- an MPA reply (in this example), then the
> connection is aborted.  Once the connection is aborted.  
                                                       ^ the 4 tuple can
then be reused for rdma or native stack tcp connections.




  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-05 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-02 22:49 [PATCH v2 00/13] 2.6.20 Chelsio T3 RDMA Driver Steve Wise
2006-12-02 22:49 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] Linux RDMA Core Changes Steve Wise
2006-12-02 22:49 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] Device Discovery and ULLD Linkage Steve Wise
2006-12-03 16:03   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-02 22:49 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] Provider Methods and Data Structures Steve Wise
2006-12-03 12:07   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-04 16:28     ` Steve Wise
2006-12-04 16:45       ` Roland Dreier
2006-12-04 16:50         ` Steve Wise
2006-12-02 22:49 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] Connection Manager Steve Wise
2006-12-04 11:08   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-04 15:45     ` Roland Dreier
2006-12-04 16:20       ` Steve Wise
2006-12-05  5:13         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-05 15:07           ` Steve Wise
2006-12-05 10:45         ` Brice Goglin
2006-12-05 16:02           ` Steve Wise
2006-12-05 16:27             ` [openib-general] " Steve Wise
2006-12-05 17:14           ` Roland Dreier
2006-12-05  5:07       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-05  5:13         ` Roland Dreier
2006-12-05  5:16           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-05  5:27             ` Roland Dreier
2006-12-05 15:14               ` Steve Wise
2006-12-05 15:27                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-05 15:46                   ` Steve Wise
2006-12-05 15:03           ` Steve Wise
2006-12-05 15:02         ` Steve Wise
2006-12-05 15:19           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-05 15:39             ` Steve Wise
2006-12-05 15:59               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-05 16:12                 ` Steve Wise
2006-12-05 16:17                   ` Steve Wise [this message]
2006-12-05 16:31                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-05 16:47                     ` Steve Wise
2006-12-05 17:26                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-05 17:32                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-05 17:51                         ` Steve Wise
2006-12-05 18:09                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-06  1:27                             ` [openib-general] " Michael Krause
2006-12-02 22:50 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] Queue Pairs Steve Wise
2006-12-02 22:50 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] Completion Queues Steve Wise
2006-12-02 22:50 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] Async Event Handler Steve Wise
2006-12-02 22:50 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] Memory Registration Steve Wise
2006-12-02 22:50 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] Core WQE/CQE Types Steve Wise
2006-12-02 22:50 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] Core HAL Steve Wise
2006-12-02 22:51 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] Core Resource Allocation Steve Wise
2006-12-02 22:51 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] Core Debug functions Steve Wise
2006-12-02 22:51 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] Kconfig/Makefile Steve Wise
2006-12-02 23:13 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] 2.6.20 Chelsio T3 RDMA Driver Francois Romieu
2006-12-03  0:24   ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-04 16:24     ` Steve Wise

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