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From: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Marvell Libertas 8388 802.11b/g USB driver (v2)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:59:58 -0500
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On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 12:14 -0500, Jon Smirl wrote:
> On 1/23/07, Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 11:18 -0500, Jon Smirl wrote:
> >
> > > Is the 802.11s Draft 1.0 spec publicly available yet? It is supposed
> > > to be making changes at the very lowest MAC layers. It will be hard to
> > > be compatible with that from user space.
> >
> > Good point, it's not possible to implement this without changes to the
> > MAC.
> >
> > > The software doesn't have to be written but there should be at least
> > > some design work done on how 11s should fit into the existing world
> > > for both a firmware and software implementation. I'd hate to see a
> > > different implementation for each vendor and another one for the
> > > software stack.
> >
> > Then we'll first have to find those vendors interested in actually
> > changing their MAC to allow .11s I guess.
> 
> I haven't seen the 11s spec, are devices with softmac implementations
> flexible enough to implement it or do they need firmware changes too?

I believe it needs to at least support 4 address frames, which usually
requires firmware changes on fullmac cards, but fully softmac cards
(atheros, broadcom) probably would not.

Dan