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From: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
To: Denys Fedoryshchenko <denys@visp.net.lb>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: HTB/HSFC shaping precision
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:24:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1195489494.4445.119.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071119083849.M87605@visp.net.lb>

Denys,

You certainly make a very compelling case. It is always compelling if
you can translate a bug/feature into $$;->.

So in your measurements, what kind of clock sources did you use?
I think the parameters to worry about are: packet size, rate and clock
source. 
I know that based on very old measurements i did on CBQ, regardless of
the clock source if you have a long-lived flow the bandwidth measurement
corrects itself. I wouldnt recommend going to CBQ, but a good start is
to test and post some results.

cheers,
jamal

On Mon, 2007-19-11 at 10:55 +0200, Denys Fedoryshchenko wrote:
> Hi 2 all again
> 
> This is not a bug report this time :-) 
> Just it is very interesting question, about using Linux "shaping" technologies
> in serious jobs.
> 
> What i realised few days ago, many ISP's set on their STM-1(155520000 bits/s)
> links (over Cisco) packet buffer/queue 40 packets(for example).
> It means 103680  pps with 1500 byte packets,  and if buffer is only 40
> packets, it means it require at least 0.3ms scheduler precision? Otherwise i
> can have buffer overflow and as result packetloss(what is much worse than
> delay in most of situations).
> 
> What i am interested - to utilise such links nearby 100%. So anything not
> precise will kill idea.
> Thats important, cause price for links in my area is about $1000-$1500 Mbit/s,
> and just 1% lost/not utilised on STM-1 is up to $2325/USD lost per month.
> I have to count also overhead, LAN jitter, and etc.
> 
> As far as i test, on HFSC if i set dmax 1ms-10ms it works much better (i am
> talking about precision) than HTB with quantum 1514 (it is over ethernet). 
> 
> Anybody have ideas what is the precision of bandwidth shaping in HFSC/HTB?



  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-19 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-19  8:55 HTB/HSFC shaping precision Denys Fedoryshchenko
2007-11-19 16:24 ` jamal [this message]
2007-11-20  9:43   ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2007-11-20 20:00     ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-11-20 21:21       ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2007-11-21  9:47         ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-11-21 10:31           ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2007-11-21 15:06             ` jamal
2007-11-22  2:07               ` Ryousei Takano

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