* [RFC PATCH] NET: Clone the sk_buff->iif field properly
@ 2008-01-02 16:01 Paul Moore
2008-01-03 9:58 ` Jarek Poplawski
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Paul Moore @ 2008-01-02 16:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: netdev
When sk_buffs are cloned the iif field of the new, cloned packet is neither
zeroed out or copied from the existing sk_buff. The result is that the newly
cloned sk_buff has garbage in the iif field which is a Bad Thing. This patch
fixes this problem by copying the iif field along with the other sk_buff
critical fields in __copy_skb_header().
This patch is needed by some of the labeled networking changes proposed for
2.6.25, does anyone have any objections?
---
net/core/skbuff.c | 1 +
1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
diff --git a/net/core/skbuff.c b/net/core/skbuff.c
index 5b4ce9b..9cb7bb7 100644
--- a/net/core/skbuff.c
+++ b/net/core/skbuff.c
@@ -371,6 +371,7 @@ static void __copy_skb_header(struct sk_buff *new, const struct sk_buff *old)
{
new->tstamp = old->tstamp;
new->dev = old->dev;
+ new->iif = old->iif;
new->transport_header = old->transport_header;
new->network_header = old->network_header;
new->mac_header = old->mac_header;
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2008-01-02 16:01 [RFC PATCH] NET: Clone the sk_buff->iif field properly Paul Moore
@ 2008-01-03 9:58 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-03 11:23 ` jamal
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Jarek Poplawski @ 2008-01-03 9:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paul Moore; +Cc: netdev, Jamal Hadi Salim
On 02-01-2008 17:01, Paul Moore wrote:
> When sk_buffs are cloned the iif field of the new, cloned packet is neither
> zeroed out or copied from the existing sk_buff. The result is that the newly
> cloned sk_buff has garbage in the iif field which is a Bad Thing. This patch
> fixes this problem by copying the iif field along with the other sk_buff
> critical fields in __copy_skb_header().
>
> This patch is needed by some of the labeled networking changes proposed for
> 2.6.25, does anyone have any objections?
Probably Jamal could be the most interested (added to CC):
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=a057ae3c104dd2c661e55d2af37e70d168c65e00
Regards,
Jarek P.
> ---
>
> net/core/skbuff.c | 1 +
> 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/net/core/skbuff.c b/net/core/skbuff.c
> index 5b4ce9b..9cb7bb7 100644
> --- a/net/core/skbuff.c
> +++ b/net/core/skbuff.c
> @@ -371,6 +371,7 @@ static void __copy_skb_header(struct sk_buff *new, const struct sk_buff *old)
> {
> new->tstamp = old->tstamp;
> new->dev = old->dev;
> + new->iif = old->iif;
> new->transport_header = old->transport_header;
> new->network_header = old->network_header;
> new->mac_header = old->mac_header;
>
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2008-01-03 9:58 ` Jarek Poplawski
@ 2008-01-03 11:23 ` jamal
2008-01-03 14:01 ` Paul Moore
2008-01-03 16:15 ` Paul Moore
0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: jamal @ 2008-01-03 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jarek Poplawski; +Cc: Paul Moore, netdev
On Thu, 2008-03-01 at 10:58 +0100, Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> On 02-01-2008 17:01, Paul Moore wrote:
> > This patch is needed by some of the labeled networking changes proposed for
> > 2.6.25, does anyone have any objections?
>
> Probably Jamal could be the most interested (added to CC):
>
Gracias Jarek.
Paul, (out of curiosity more than anything) what are the circumstances
of the cloned skb - are you going to reinject it back at some point?
I cant think of any good reason why iif shouldnt be copied - thats how
its been from the begining (dammit;->). The reason it hasnt mattered so
far is everything that needs to write the iif never copied (refer to
Documentation/networking/tc-actions-env-rules.txt). For correctness i
think it should be copied. So no objections;
The better patch would be to just put it in skb_clone and remove it from
tc_act_clone.
cheers,
jamal
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* Re: [RFC PATCH] NET: Clone the sk_buff->iif field properly
2008-01-03 11:23 ` jamal
@ 2008-01-03 14:01 ` Paul Moore
2008-01-03 16:15 ` Paul Moore
1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Paul Moore @ 2008-01-03 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: hadi; +Cc: Jarek Poplawski, netdev
On Thursday 03 January 2008 6:23:22 am jamal wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-03-01 at 10:58 +0100, Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> > On 02-01-2008 17:01, Paul Moore wrote:
> > > This patch is needed by some of the labeled networking changes proposed
> > > for 2.6.25, does anyone have any objections?
> >
> > Probably Jamal could be the most interested (added to CC):
>
> Gracias Jarek.
Yes, thank you. One of these days I need to learn some git commands other
than clone, update, and push ;)
> Paul, (out of curiosity more than anything) what are the circumstances
> of the cloned skb - are you going to reinject it back at some point?
Well, I'm not planning on reinjecting the cloned skb at present (doesn't mean
I won't think up some contrived use in the future) but the stack appears to
do this already in a few cases and it is causing problems when we try to
perform access control on the cloned skb. The git-lblnet "horkage" in
the -mm tree just before the holiday is the most notable example.
> I cant think of any good reason why iif shouldnt be copied - thats how
> its been from the begining (dammit;->). The reason it hasnt mattered so
> far is everything that needs to write the iif never copied (refer to
> Documentation/networking/tc-actions-env-rules.txt). For correctness i
> think it should be copied. So no objections;
Great.
> The better patch would be to just put it in skb_clone and remove it from
> tc_act_clone.
I assume you mean skb_act_clone()? That sounds like the best idea, I'll fixup
the patch and resend it today for more review.
Thanks guys.
--
paul moore
linux security @ hp
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* Re: [RFC PATCH] NET: Clone the sk_buff->iif field properly
2008-01-03 11:23 ` jamal
2008-01-03 14:01 ` Paul Moore
@ 2008-01-03 16:15 ` Paul Moore
2008-01-03 21:13 ` Jarek Poplawski
1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Paul Moore @ 2008-01-03 16:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: hadi, netdev; +Cc: Jarek Poplawski
On Thursday 03 January 2008 6:23:22 am jamal wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-03-01 at 10:58 +0100, Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> > On 02-01-2008 17:01, Paul Moore wrote:
> > > This patch is needed by some of the labeled networking changes
> > > proposed for 2.6.25, does anyone have any objections?
> >
> > Probably Jamal could be the most interested (added to CC):
>
> Gracias Jarek.
> Paul, (out of curiosity more than anything) what are the
> circumstances of the cloned skb - are you going to reinject it back
> at some point?
>
> I cant think of any good reason why iif shouldnt be copied - thats
> how its been from the begining (dammit;->). The reason it hasnt
> mattered so far is everything that needs to write the iif never
> copied (refer to Documentation/networking/tc-actions-env-rules.txt).
> For correctness i think it should be copied. So no objections;
> The better patch would be to just put it in skb_clone and remove it
> from tc_act_clone.
While I'm at it, is there some reason for this #define in __skb_clone()?
#define C(x) n->x = skb->x
... it seems kinda silly to me and I tend to think the code would be
better without it.
--
paul moore
linux security @ hp
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* Re: [RFC PATCH] NET: Clone the sk_buff->iif field properly
2008-01-03 16:15 ` Paul Moore
@ 2008-01-03 21:13 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-03 21:20 ` Paul Moore
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Jarek Poplawski @ 2008-01-03 21:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paul Moore; +Cc: hadi, netdev
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 11:15:34AM -0500, Paul Moore wrote:
...
> While I'm at it, is there some reason for this #define in __skb_clone()?
>
> #define C(x) n->x = skb->x
>
> ... it seems kinda silly to me and I tend to think the code would be
> better without it.
IMHO, if there are a lot of this, it's definitely more readable: easier
to check which values are simply copied and which need something more.
But, as usual, it's probably a question of taste, and of course without
it it would definitely look classier...
Cheers,
Jarek P.
PS: I hope you didn't suggest earlier my (better?) knowlege of git;
otherwise don't bother: with your git push you are far ahead of my
gitweb 'degree'.
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* Re: [RFC PATCH] NET: Clone the sk_buff->iif field properly
2008-01-03 21:13 ` Jarek Poplawski
@ 2008-01-03 21:20 ` Paul Moore
2008-01-03 22:06 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-03 23:05 ` David Miller
0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Paul Moore @ 2008-01-03 21:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jarek Poplawski; +Cc: hadi, netdev
On Thursday 03 January 2008 4:13:12 pm Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 11:15:34AM -0500, Paul Moore wrote:
> ...
>
> > While I'm at it, is there some reason for this #define in
> > __skb_clone()?
> >
> > #define C(x) n->x = skb->x
> >
> > ... it seems kinda silly to me and I tend to think the code would
> > be better without it.
>
> IMHO, if there are a lot of this, it's definitely more readable:
> easier to check which values are simply copied and which need
> something more. But, as usual, it's probably a question of taste, and
> of course without it it would definitely look classier...
For me personally, I would argue the readability bit. Whenever I see a
function/macro call I have to go find the function/macro definition
before I can understand what it is doing. Granted, the macro is
defined "local" to the function but my point is that being able to look
at a line of code and understand it without having to look elsewhere is
a nice quality. To loose that simply because someone wants to save a
few keystrokes is a mistake from my point of view.
Besides, if we are really interested in writing a kernel with the least
number of keystrokes possible wouldn't we be doing it in perl? I'm
sure somebody out there has ported the current kernel source to a
single line of perl ... ;)
> PS: I hope you didn't suggest earlier my (better?) knowlege of git;
> otherwise don't bother: with your git push you are far ahead of my
> gitweb 'degree'.
;)
On a serious note, your comment about gitweb made me poke around with
some of the extra little features ... that 'history' link for each file
is pretty cool!
--
paul moore
linux security @ hp
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* Re: [RFC PATCH] NET: Clone the sk_buff->iif field properly
2008-01-03 21:20 ` Paul Moore
@ 2008-01-03 22:06 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-03 22:49 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-03 23:05 ` David Miller
1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Jarek Poplawski @ 2008-01-03 22:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paul Moore; +Cc: hadi, netdev
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 04:20:06PM -0500, Paul Moore wrote:
...
> For me personally, I would argue the readability bit. Whenever I see a
> function/macro call I have to go find the function/macro definition
> before I can understand what it is doing. Granted, the macro is
> defined "local" to the function but my point is that being able to look
> at a line of code and understand it without having to look elsewhere is
> a nice quality. To loose that simply because someone wants to save a
> few keystrokes is a mistake from my point of view.
When I first read this __skb_clone() I had mixed emotions about this
macro too. Later I didn't think about it, and only now, after your
question I've done a quick test, compared with __copy_skb_header() and
it seems there is really less rightwords eye moving. So, it was only
about this one very "local" macro.
I'm not macros fan in general: just yesterday I've cursed a bit at some
guy (I forgot the name...), who gave all these "meaningful" names to
macros in linux/pkt_cls.h. But, maybe after some time I'll start to
defend them as well... Especially when I try to imagine doing the same
without them.
Jarek P.
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* Re: [RFC PATCH] NET: Clone the sk_buff->iif field properly
2008-01-03 22:06 ` Jarek Poplawski
@ 2008-01-03 22:49 ` Jarek Poplawski
0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Jarek Poplawski @ 2008-01-03 22:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paul Moore; +Cc: hadi, netdev
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 11:06:08PM +0100, Jarek Poplawski wrote:
...
> I'm not macros fan in general: just yesterday I've cursed a bit at some
> guy (I forgot the name...), who gave all these "meaningful" names to
> macros in linux/pkt_cls.h. But, maybe after some time I'll start to
> defend them as well... Especially when I try to imagine doing the same
> without them.
...Jamal, as a matter of fact, I don't know why, just about writing this
previous message, I started to like all these names without exception!
Isn't it a miracle?
Jarek P.
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* Re: [RFC PATCH] NET: Clone the sk_buff->iif field properly
2008-01-03 21:20 ` Paul Moore
2008-01-03 22:06 ` Jarek Poplawski
@ 2008-01-03 23:05 ` David Miller
2008-01-03 23:13 ` Paul Moore
1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: David Miller @ 2008-01-03 23:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: paul.moore; +Cc: jarkao2, hadi, netdev
From: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:20:06 -0500
> On Thursday 03 January 2008 4:13:12 pm Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 11:15:34AM -0500, Paul Moore wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > > While I'm at it, is there some reason for this #define in
> > > __skb_clone()?
> > >
> > > #define C(x) n->x = skb->x
> > >
> > > ... it seems kinda silly to me and I tend to think the code would
> > > be better without it.
> >
> > IMHO, if there are a lot of this, it's definitely more readable:
> > easier to check which values are simply copied and which need
> > something more. But, as usual, it's probably a question of taste, and
> > of course without it it would definitely look classier...
>
> For me personally, I would argue the readability bit.
I definitely think the C() thing is more readable.
Less typing, less reading...
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* Re: [RFC PATCH] NET: Clone the sk_buff->iif field properly
2008-01-03 23:05 ` David Miller
@ 2008-01-03 23:13 ` Paul Moore
2008-01-03 23:25 ` David Miller
2008-01-03 23:40 ` Joe Perches
0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Paul Moore @ 2008-01-03 23:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Miller; +Cc: jarkao2, hadi, netdev
On Thursday 03 January 2008 6:05:18 pm David Miller wrote:
> From: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>
> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:20:06 -0500
>
> > On Thursday 03 January 2008 4:13:12 pm Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 11:15:34AM -0500, Paul Moore wrote:
> > > ...
> > >
> > > > While I'm at it, is there some reason for this #define in
> > > > __skb_clone()?
> > > >
> > > > #define C(x) n->x = skb->x
> > > >
> > > > ... it seems kinda silly to me and I tend to think the code
> > > > would be better without it.
> > >
> > > IMHO, if there are a lot of this, it's definitely more readable:
> > > easier to check which values are simply copied and which need
> > > something more. But, as usual, it's probably a question of taste,
> > > and of course without it it would definitely look classier...
> >
> > For me personally, I would argue the readability bit.
>
> I definitely think the C() thing is more readable.
>
> Less typing, less reading...
Well, you're the boss :) I just put the C() macro back in, but I kept
the reordering that was suggested to help reduce cacheline bounces
since that still makes sense to me. The function now looks like this:
static struct sk_buff *__skb_clone(struct sk_buff *n, struct sk_buff
*skb)
{
#define C(x) n->x = skb->x
n->next = n->prev = NULL;
n->sk = NULL;
__copy_skb_header(n, skb);
C(len);
C(data_len);
C(mac_len);
n->hdr_len = skb->nohdr ? skb_headroom(skb) : skb->hdr_len;
n->cloned = 1;
n->nohdr = 0;
n->destructor = NULL;
C(iif);
C(tail);
C(end);
C(head);
C(data);
C(truesize);
atomic_set(&n->users, 1);
atomic_inc(&(skb_shinfo(skb)->dataref));
skb->cloned = 1;
return n;
#undef C
}
--
paul moore
linux security @ hp
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2008-01-03 23:13 ` Paul Moore
@ 2008-01-03 23:25 ` David Miller
2008-01-03 23:40 ` Joe Perches
1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: David Miller @ 2008-01-03 23:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: paul.moore; +Cc: jarkao2, hadi, netdev
From: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 18:13:57 -0500
> On Thursday 03 January 2008 6:05:18 pm David Miller wrote:
> > From: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>
> > Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:20:06 -0500
> >
> > > On Thursday 03 January 2008 4:13:12 pm Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 11:15:34AM -0500, Paul Moore wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > > While I'm at it, is there some reason for this #define in
> > > > > __skb_clone()?
> > > > >
> > > > > #define C(x) n->x = skb->x
> > > > >
> > > > > ... it seems kinda silly to me and I tend to think the code
> > > > > would be better without it.
> > > >
> > > > IMHO, if there are a lot of this, it's definitely more readable:
> > > > easier to check which values are simply copied and which need
> > > > something more. But, as usual, it's probably a question of taste,
> > > > and of course without it it would definitely look classier...
> > >
> > > For me personally, I would argue the readability bit.
> >
> > I definitely think the C() thing is more readable.
> >
> > Less typing, less reading...
>
> Well, you're the boss :) I just put the C() macro back in, but I kept
> the reordering that was suggested to help reduce cacheline bounces
> since that still makes sense to me. The function now looks like this:
Looks ok to me.
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* Re: [RFC PATCH] NET: Clone the sk_buff->iif field properly
2008-01-03 23:13 ` Paul Moore
2008-01-03 23:25 ` David Miller
@ 2008-01-03 23:40 ` Joe Perches
2008-01-04 3:19 ` Paul Moore
1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Joe Perches @ 2008-01-03 23:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paul Moore; +Cc: David Miller, jarkao2, hadi, netdev
On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 18:13 -0500, Paul Moore wrote:
> static struct sk_buff *__skb_clone(struct sk_buff *n, struct sk_buff
> *skb)
> {
> #define C(x) n->x = skb->x
>
> n->next = n->prev = NULL;
> n->sk = NULL;
> __copy_skb_header(n, skb);
>
> C(len);
> C(data_len);
> C(mac_len);
> n->hdr_len = skb->nohdr ? skb_headroom(skb) : skb->hdr_len;
> n->cloned = 1;
> n->nohdr = 0;
> n->destructor = NULL;
> C(iif);
> C(tail);
> C(end);
> C(head);
> C(data);
> C(truesize);
> atomic_set(&n->users, 1);
>
> atomic_inc(&(skb_shinfo(skb)->dataref));
> skb->cloned = 1;
>
> return n;
> #undef C
Perhaps move the skb->cloned = 1 to just after n->cloned = 1
or
skb->cloned = n->cloned = 1;
or maybe
skb->cloned = 1;
C(cloned);
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2008-01-03 23:40 ` Joe Perches
@ 2008-01-04 3:19 ` Paul Moore
2008-01-04 3:36 ` David Miller
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Paul Moore @ 2008-01-04 3:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joe Perches; +Cc: David Miller, jarkao2, hadi, netdev
On Thursday 03 January 2008 6:40:07 pm Joe Perches wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 18:13 -0500, Paul Moore wrote:
> > static struct sk_buff *__skb_clone(struct sk_buff *n, struct sk_buff
> > *skb)
> > {
> > #define C(x) n->x = skb->x
> >
> > n->next = n->prev = NULL;
> > n->sk = NULL;
> > __copy_skb_header(n, skb);
> >
> > C(len);
> > C(data_len);
> > C(mac_len);
> > n->hdr_len = skb->nohdr ? skb_headroom(skb) : skb->hdr_len;
> > n->cloned = 1;
> > n->nohdr = 0;
> > n->destructor = NULL;
> > C(iif);
> > C(tail);
> > C(end);
> > C(head);
> > C(data);
> > C(truesize);
> > atomic_set(&n->users, 1);
> >
> > atomic_inc(&(skb_shinfo(skb)->dataref));
> > skb->cloned = 1;
> >
> > return n;
> > #undef C
>
> Perhaps move the skb->cloned = 1 to just after n->cloned = 1
> or
> skb->cloned = n->cloned = 1;
> or maybe
> skb->cloned = 1;
> C(cloned);
I thought about that, but I kinda like how the parent-skb-only changes are
grouped together at the end. I think the distinction helps readability, but
then again we've already seen how subjective readability can be :)
--
paul moore
linux security @ hp
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2008-01-04 3:19 ` Paul Moore
@ 2008-01-04 3:36 ` David Miller
0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: David Miller @ 2008-01-04 3:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: paul.moore; +Cc: joe, jarkao2, hadi, netdev
From: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 22:19:03 -0500
> > Perhaps move the skb->cloned = 1 to just after n->cloned = 1
> > or
> > skb->cloned = n->cloned = 1;
> > or maybe
> > skb->cloned = 1;
> > C(cloned);
>
> I thought about that, but I kinda like how the parent-skb-only changes are
> grouped together at the end. I think the distinction helps readability, but
> then again we've already seen how subjective readability can be :)
I think either way is fine, as long as the stores are ordered
properly. The ordering of the loads and little issues like
this skb->cloned thing are much less important.
Actually, if you look at the generated assembler, GCC makes
a mess of all of these bitfield accesses, largely destroying
the pure store stream since it does a read/modify/write on
a word for each bitfield set.
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