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From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	acme@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] [NET]: uninline skb_put, de-bloats a lot
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:54:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1206665680.4849.137.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1206663095.4122.82.camel@calx>

On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 19:11 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> In the 486 era, when CPU performance was close to 1:1 with memory,
> branches were more expensive than sequential memory fetches, and
> registers were scarce, inlining made a fair amount of sense.
> 
> But now we've moved very far away from that indeed:

Systems have certainly improved but Linux is used in a
wide variety of CPU Hz, memory & register architectures.

Some of those systems haven't changed at all.
Some of those systems have sufficient cache for a
networking stack.

I think this change could negatively impact some of these
different uses and systems.

> In the case of this patch, removing 60-100k from the network stack means
> we're almost certainly avoiding a lot of cache misses in the big picture
> while taking a few cycle hit per packet in the smallest scale.

I think the quantities of big v small are instance dependent
and it might be prudent to have the capability to keep these
functions inline.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-28  0:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-27 12:37 [PATCH 0/7]: uninline some net related static inline in .h bloaters Ilpo Järvinen
2008-03-27 12:38 ` [PATCH 1/7] [NET]: uninline skb_put, de-bloats a lot Ilpo Järvinen
2008-03-27 12:38   ` [PATCH 2/7] [NET]: uninline skb_pull, " Ilpo Järvinen
2008-03-27 12:38     ` [PATCH 3/7] [NET]: uninline dev_alloc_skb, " Ilpo Järvinen
2008-03-27 12:38       ` [PATCH 4/7] [NET]: uninline skb_push, " Ilpo Järvinen
2008-03-27 12:38         ` [PATCH 5/7] [NET]: uninline dst_release Ilpo Järvinen
2008-03-27 12:38           ` [PATCH 6/7] [NET]: uninline skb_trim, de-bloats Ilpo Järvinen
2008-03-27 12:38             ` [PATCH 7/7] [SCTP]: Remove sctp_add_cmd_sf wrapper bloat Ilpo Järvinen
2008-03-28  0:54               ` David Miller
2008-03-28  0:54             ` [PATCH 6/7] [NET]: uninline skb_trim, de-bloats David Miller
2008-03-28  0:53           ` [PATCH 5/7] [NET]: uninline dst_release David Miller
2008-03-28  0:52         ` [PATCH 4/7] [NET]: uninline skb_push, de-bloats a lot David Miller
2008-03-27 23:36       ` [PATCH 3/7] [NET]: uninline dev_alloc_skb, " Denys Vlasenko
2008-03-28  0:52         ` David Miller
2008-03-28  1:42           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-03-28 22:34           ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-03-28 22:57             ` David Miller
2008-03-29  4:52             ` Bill Fink
2008-03-28  0:51       ` David Miller
2008-03-27 19:10   ` [PATCH 1/7] [NET]: uninline skb_put, " Joe Perches
2008-03-27 22:04     ` David Miller
2008-03-28  0:02       ` Joe Perches
2008-03-28  0:04         ` David Miller
2008-03-28  0:11       ` Matt Mackall
2008-03-28  0:54         ` Joe Perches [this message]
2008-03-28  1:18           ` Matt Mackall
2008-03-28 19:56             ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-03-28  0:43   ` David Miller
2008-03-28  0:54 ` [PATCH 0/7]: uninline some net related static inline in .h bloaters David Miller

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