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From: Dan Williams <dcbw-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes-cdvu00un1VgdHxzADdlk8Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Marcel Holtmann <marcel-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	netdev <netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Jean Tourrilhes <jt-sDzT885Ts8HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-wireless
	<linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC] make wext wireless bits optional and deprecate them
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:53:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1211212438.12187.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1211211547.6252.54.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 17:39 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 11:24 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 14:16 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> > > > Instead of testing for wireless/, best thing would probably be to call
> > > > SIOCGIWRANGE on the device and if it returns EOPNOTSUP then it's not
> > > > wireless.  Some drivers may have to load firmware to figure out
> > > > supported rates and encryption capabilities, but to be honest, NM does
> > > > this to detect wireless devices and I haven't run into any issues in 4
> > > > years using it.  If there are issues with drivers, then we need to fix
> > > > the driver too.
> > > 
> > > I was about to propose calling SIOCGIWNAME since that is what
> > > wireless-tools do and that linux/wireless.h indicates.
> > 
> > Hmm; NAME is pretty useless.  That's fine to do, I guess WEXT requires
> > that NAME return _something_ at least.  NAME should never ever be used
> > for anything more, but since wireless-tools appears to do this that's
> > fine.
> 
> Yes, I realise it is completely useless, but wext seems to require that
> it be implemented. RANGE would work as well but typically has much more
> complexity in the kernel.

Yup; NAME's better for this even though it's useless.

Dan

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-05-19 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-17 12:12 [RFC] make wext wireless bits optional and deprecate them Johannes Berg
     [not found] ` <1211026337.3827.25.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-17 12:16   ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-17 13:45 ` Marcel Holtmann
     [not found]   ` <CD993362-B1DE-4E4D-8A5B-E9E2AD7DA04C-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-17 13:54     ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-17 14:36       ` Marcel Holtmann
     [not found]         ` <31B1A5D6-8E8B-4148-860F-326FEEE5A3EE-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-17 14:42           ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]       ` <1211032475.6252.2.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-18 13:36         ` Dan Williams
     [not found]           ` <1211117795.686.15.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-19 12:16             ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-19 15:24               ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                 ` <1211210686.12187.6.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-19 15:39                   ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                     ` <1211211547.6252.54.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-19 15:53                       ` Dan Williams [this message]
2008-05-19 17:03                 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2008-05-19 17:01               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2008-05-20 17:15     ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-20 17:28       ` Marcel Holtmann
     [not found]       ` <1211303731.6252.105.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-21 21:03         ` John W. Linville
2008-05-21 21:37           ` Johannes Berg

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