From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matt Mackall Subject: Re: [patch 12/12] Configure out ethtool support Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:05:02 -0500 Message-ID: <1217459102.18911.182.camel@calx> References: <200807301939.m6UJd5lT012610@imap1.linux-foundation.org> <20080730.143532.124324888.davem@davemloft.net> <1217456666.18911.145.camel@calx> <20080730.153758.91676696.davem@davemloft.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, jeff@garzik.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com To: David Miller Return-path: Received: from waste.org ([66.93.16.53]:36859 "EHLO waste.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752392AbYG3XHr (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:07:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20080730.153758.91676696.davem@davemloft.net> Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 15:37 -0700, David Miller wrote: > From: Matt Mackall > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:24:26 -0500 >=20 > >=20 > > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 14:35 -0700, David Miller wrote: > > > This change means you can't configure nearly all of the features = on > > > your ethernet card. You can't even configure the link parameters > > > without ethtool support. > >=20 > > Which is big fat don't-care for the vast majority of users. =EF=BB=BF= =EF=BB=BFVarious > > popular distros don't even install the tool by default. >=20 > Are you even aware that the ethtool layer gets invoked by simply > enabling IP forwarding or bridgining, in order to disable LRO > offloading which conflicts with such uses? Oh noes. How ever will my poor webcam get on the internets without that= =2E Again, most users don't use forwarding or bridging, nor do they have LRO. Again, doubly so for embedded devices. Your remark about CONFIG_INET is pure hyperbole. > And I disagree with your asserion that the tool doesn't get installed > by default by distros. I can't find one single system here that > doesn't have /usr/sbin/ethtool available. >=20 > I guess it depends upon your definition of "various". I've got a vanilla Debian install here for starters. --=20 Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.