From: Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.osdl.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] virtio_net: Improve the recv buffer allocation scheme
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:30:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1223627431.3618.41.camel@blaa> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48EE5AE1.5030002@codemonkey.ws>
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 14:26 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> >
> > Also, including virtio_net_hdr in the data buffer would need another
> > feature flag. Rightly or wrongly, KVM's implementation requires
> > virtio_net_hdr to be the first buffer:
> >
> > if (elem.in_num < 1 || elem.in_sg[0].iov_len != sizeof(*hdr)) {
> > fprintf(stderr, "virtio-net header not in first element\n");
> > exit(1);
> > }
> >
> > i.e. it's part of the ABI ... at least as KVM sees it :-)
>
> This is actually something that's broken in a nasty way. Having the
> header in the first element is not supposed to be part of the ABI but it
> sort of has to be ATM.
>
> If an older version of QEMU were to use a newer kernel, and the newer
> kernel had a larger header size, then if we just made the header be the
> first X bytes, QEMU has no way of knowing how many bytes that should be.
> Instead, the guest actually has to allocate the virtio-net header in
> such a way that it only presents the size depending on the features that
> the host supports. We don't use a simple versioning scheme, so you'd
> have to check for a combination of features advertised by the host but
> that's not good enough because the host may disable certain features.
>
> Perhaps the header size is whatever the longest element that has been
> commonly negotiated?
>
> So that's why this aggressive check is here. Not to necessarily cement
> this into the ABI but as a way to make someone figure out how to
> sanitize this all.
Well, features may be orthogonal but they are still added sequentially
to the ABI. So, you would have a kind of implicit ABI versioning, while
still allowing individual selection of features.
e.g. if NET_F_FOO adds "int foo" to the header and then NET_F_BAR adds
"int bar" to the header then if NET_F_FOO is negotiated, the guest
should only send a header with "foo" and if NET_F_FOO|NET_F_BAR or
NET_F_BAR is negotiated, then the guest sends a header with both "foo"
and "bar".
Or put it another way, a host or guest may not implement NET_F_FOO but
knowledge of the "foo" header field is part of the ABI of NET_F_BAR.
That knowledge would be as simple as knowing that the field exists and
that it should be ignored if the feature isn't used.
Cheers,
Mark.
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2008-10-09 15:30 ` [PATCH 2/2] virtio_net: Improve the recv buffer allocation scheme Herbert Xu
2008-10-09 17:40 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-10-09 19:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-10 8:30 ` Mark McLoughlin [this message]
2008-10-16 9:15 ` Rusty Russell
2008-10-10 12:56 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-10-16 4:43 ` Rusty Russell
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