From: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: wd@denx.de, shemminger@vyatta.com, yanok@emcraft.com,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
dzu@denx.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dnet: Dave DNET ethernet controller driver
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:00:16 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1236780016.10989.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090311.062336.238430706.davem@davemloft.net>
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 06:23 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:09:38 +0100
>
> > How do you then handle situations where this is impossible? Say, when
> > the firmware cannot write to those registers for example because the
> > ethernet controller is not even powered on (to reduce power consump-
> > tion), but will get powered on only in Linux when the driver gets
> > loaded (i. e. on demand only, not always)?
>
> That's what NVRAM, CMOS, EEPROM's and other writable long-term
> storage areas are for.
>
> To be quite honest with you, any ethernet device that doesn't
> have an EEPROM where the chip instance's ethernet address is
> stored is completely broken.
Not having persistent MAC storage makes it quite hard from userspace to
tie specific network configuration to a specific device, because
(rightly so) kernel network interface names are *not* stable. And since
most manufacturers don't bother to put serial numbers into things like
the USB descriptors, there is now way to uniquely identify if you plug
two in. LOSE.
Save a kitten. Add an EEPROM.
Dan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-11 14:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-11 2:29 [PATCH] dnet: Dave DNET ethernet controller driver Ilya Yanok
2009-03-11 4:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-11 23:33 ` [PATCH] dnet: Dave DNET ethernet controller driver (updated) Ilya Yanok
2009-03-12 6:29 ` David Miller
2009-03-11 4:18 ` [PATCH] dnet: Dave DNET ethernet controller driver Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-11 8:44 ` Sascha Hauer
2009-03-11 8:49 ` David Miller
2009-03-11 8:57 ` Sascha Hauer
2009-03-11 9:09 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-03-11 10:35 ` Sascha Hauer
2009-03-11 13:23 ` David Miller
2009-03-11 14:00 ` Dan Williams [this message]
2009-03-11 18:23 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-03-11 19:15 ` Riku Voipio
2009-03-12 0:44 ` David Miller
2009-03-11 20:56 ` Christer Weinigel
2009-03-11 21:33 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-03-12 0:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-12 10:41 ` Christer Weinigel
2009-03-12 12:55 ` David Miller
2009-03-12 14:21 ` Christer Weinigel
2009-03-12 14:34 ` Sascha Hauer
2009-03-12 15:01 ` David Miller
2009-03-12 15:12 ` Neil Horman
2009-03-12 16:25 ` Christer Weinigel
2009-03-12 17:43 ` David Miller
2009-03-12 17:52 ` Christer Weinigel
2009-03-12 18:06 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-03-12 18:39 ` Dan Williams
2009-03-12 18:48 ` Christer Weinigel
2009-03-12 19:04 ` Sascha Hauer
2009-03-12 19:15 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-03-12 19:16 ` Neil Horman
2009-03-12 19:21 ` Christer Weinigel
2009-03-12 20:14 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-03-12 20:27 ` Sascha Hauer
2009-03-12 20:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-03-12 17:49 ` Neil Horman
2009-03-12 18:25 ` Christer Weinigel
2009-03-12 19:05 ` Neil Horman
2009-03-12 19:14 ` Sascha Hauer
2009-03-12 19:29 ` Christer Weinigel
2009-03-12 21:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-03-12 23:42 ` Christer Weinigel
2009-03-13 0:21 ` Neil Horman
2009-03-13 1:29 ` Christer Weinigel
2009-03-13 10:30 ` Neil Horman
2009-03-13 0:16 ` Neil Horman
2009-03-12 19:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-03-12 19:43 ` Christer Weinigel
2009-03-12 20:24 ` Mike (mwester)
2009-03-13 0:29 ` Neil Horman
2009-03-12 13:41 ` Michael Cashwell
2009-03-12 14:05 ` David Miller
2009-03-12 14:26 ` Neil Horman
2009-03-12 18:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-03-13 19:49 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-03-13 20:12 ` David Miller
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