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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [iproute2 patch]: Add 'ip tuntap' facility for managing tun/tap devices
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:49:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1243442972.18507.32.camel@macbook.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090527093815.4ddf99de@nehalam>

On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 09:38 -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Wed, 27 May 2009 17:32:17 +0100
> David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 15:49 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 07:38 -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > > I would rather provide a netlink for managing TUNTAP interfaces
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure that makes a lot of sense. We'd be adding a new, duplicate
> > > user API solely for the benefit of iproute2; it's not as if we'd ever be
> > > able to get rid of the existing interface that everyone uses.
> > >
> > > Unless you want to ditch the /dev/net/tun chardev completely and do
> > > _everything_ over netlink, maybe... but that doesn't seem particularly
> > > worthwhile either.
> > > 
> > > >  and reorganize under ip link??
> > > 
> > > It seemed more intuitive to model it after 'ip tunnel'. How would you
> > > want it to look?
> > 
> > Ping?
> > 
> 
> Almost all of iproute2 is based on netlink, I don't want to add non netlink
> interfaces. 

So you want to add a new interface to the kernel which duplicates the
one we've had for years, then make userspace which will only work with
newer kernels?

-- 
David Woodhouse                            Open Source Technology Centre
David.Woodhouse@intel.com                              Intel Corporation


  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-27 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-04 10:32 tun: add tun_flags, owner, group attributes in sysfs David Woodhouse
2009-05-04 10:36 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-05-05 22:18   ` David Woodhouse
2009-05-04 10:42 ` [iproute2 patch]: Add 'ip tuntap' facility for managing tun/tap devices David Woodhouse
2009-05-04 14:38   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-04 14:49     ` David Woodhouse
2009-05-27 16:32       ` David Woodhouse
2009-05-27 16:38         ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-27 16:49           ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2009-05-27 17:06             ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-27 20:44               ` David Miller
2009-05-27 20:43             ` David Miller
2009-05-28  4:58   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-28  8:12     ` David Woodhouse
2009-06-13  8:55       ` David Woodhouse
2009-07-20 23:44         ` David Woodhouse
2009-05-04 14:47 ` tun: add tun_flags, owner, group attributes in sysfs Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-04 14:58   ` David Woodhouse
2009-05-09 20:27 ` David Miller
2009-05-09 22:27   ` David Woodhouse
2009-05-09 22:55     ` David Woodhouse
2009-05-09 22:56     ` David Miller
2009-05-10  5:54 ` David Miller

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