From: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
To: Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov <dbaryshkov@gmail.com>
Cc: "Holger Schurig" <hs4233@mail.mn-solutions.de>,
linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
"Gábor Stefanik" <netrolller.3d@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
slapin@ossfans.org, maxim.osipov@siemens.com,
dmitry.baryshkov@siemens.com, oliver.fendt@siemens.com
Subject: Re: Ответ: [PATCH 10/10] ieee802154: add at86rf230/rf231 spi driver
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 10:36:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1243931809.3192.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bc64b4640906020129x4fe15e5en9d8e2cad1d86b236@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Dmitry,
> >> > I thought about drivers/net as about ip (well, more or less)
> >> > network drivers. We have drivers/atm or drivers/bluetooth (and
> >> > bluetooth is 802.15.1...).
> >>
> >> I actually like that this is drivers/bluetooth and not
> >> drivers/ieee802151. Would you consider drivers/zigbee instead of
> >> drivers/ieee802154 ???
> >
> > I fully agree here.
> >
> > Please use "zigbee" instead of "ieee*" names since that can become messy
> > and confusing. I know that in theory the IEEE part of ZigBee is more
> > low-level radio and could be used by non-ZigBee devices, but that is not
> > gonna happen anyway. Especially with Bluetooth Low Energy pushing into
> > the turf of ZigBee. So please use proper names and not confuse people
> > with IEEE numbers ;)
>
> This gonna happen, as we are most probably going to implement 6lowpan
> on top of our stack. 6lowpan is a way to encapsulate IPv6 frames into
> IEEE 802.15.4 and has nothing in common with ZigBee. Moreover
> ZigBee is a trademark with strict rules upon it's usage. Our lawyers are
> currently investigating if it's possible to use this name in projects like
> Linux kernel which are open-source, non-related to any project but
> OTOH can be encapsulated in any commercial project.
>
> IEEE 802.15.4 is a term like IEEE 802.11. We do have mac80211,
> we have had (until recently) ieee80211 dir, so why bother?
>
> For Bluetooth naming directories 'bluetooth' is logical, as 802.15.1
> standard is a less known name, doesn't incorporate latest changes
> from Bluetooth, etc.
and so is IEEE 802.15.4 hence we propose using "zigbee" here. Using the
mac80211 has historical reasons and 802.11 is a known name and even used
on product marketing material. IEEE 802.15.4 is not. We are also using
the term "wimax" and not its IEEE numbering.
Regards
Marcel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-02 8:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-01 14:54 [RFC][WIP] IEEE 802.15.4 implementation for Linux v1 Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-06-01 14:54 ` [PATCH 01/10] crc-itu-t: add bit-reversed calculation Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-06-01 14:54 ` [PATCH 02/10] Add constants for the ieee 802.15.4/ZigBee stack Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-06-01 14:54 ` [PATCH 03/10] net: add IEEE 802.15.4 socket family implementation Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
[not found] ` <1243868091-5315-4-git-send-email-dbaryshkov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 14:54 ` [PATCH 04/10] net: add NL802154 interface for configuration of 802.15.4 devices Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-06-01 14:54 ` [PATCH 05/10] ieee802154: add simple HardMAC driver sample Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-06-01 14:54 ` [PATCH 06/10] mac802154: add a software MAC 802.15.4 implementation Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
[not found] ` <1243868091-5315-7-git-send-email-dbaryshkov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 14:54 ` [PATCH 07/10] ieee802154: add virtual loopback driver Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
[not found] ` <1243868091-5315-8-git-send-email-dbaryshkov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 14:54 ` [PATCH 08/10] tty_io: export tty_class Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
[not found] ` <1243868091-5315-9-git-send-email-dbaryshkov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 14:54 ` [PATCH 09/10] ieee802154: add serial dongle driver Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
[not found] ` <1243868091-5315-10-git-send-email-dbaryshkov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 14:54 ` [PATCH 10/10] ieee802154: add at86rf230/rf231 spi driver Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
[not found] ` <1243868091-5315-11-git-send-email-dbaryshkov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 16:21 ` Gábor Stefanik
[not found] ` <69e28c910906010921r56cf7017gc858cb7ba819c385-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 20:33 ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
[not found] ` <20090601203348.GC7143-nIupHZaCssqR2kOLt6zJ8ErlnG4Plg33XqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02 8:10 ` Holger Schurig
[not found] ` <200906021010.49613.hs4233-x6+DxXLjN1AJvtFkdXX2Hg4jNU5vUVPG@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02 8:21 ` Marcel Holtmann
[not found] ` <1243930893.3192.62.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02 8:29 ` Ответ: " Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-06-02 8:36 ` Marcel Holtmann [this message]
2009-06-02 8:46 ` Florian Fainelli
2009-06-02 8:49 ` Maxim Osipov
[not found] ` <6097c490906020149j5d614064ied2a4bfebd13ddb0-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02 9:15 ` Holger Schurig
2009-06-02 9:29 ` ?????: " Jonathan Cameron
[not found] ` <4A24F106.5040704-KWPb1pKIrIJaa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02 11:42 ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
[not found] ` <1243931809.3192.68.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02 8:52 ` Ответ: " Sergey Lapin
2009-06-01 15:27 ` [PATCH 09/10] ieee802154: add serial dongle driver Alan Cox
2009-06-01 20:29 ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
[not found] ` <20090601202946.GB7143-nIupHZaCssqR2kOLt6zJ8ErlnG4Plg33XqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 21:52 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20090601225205.1e7e8944-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02 14:43 ` Sergey Lapin
2009-06-01 15:07 ` [PATCH 08/10] tty_io: export tty_class Alan Cox
2009-06-01 15:10 ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-06-01 15:34 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20090601163418.465be751-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02 14:22 ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-06-02 14:35 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-05 12:24 ` [PATCH 06/10] mac802154: add a software MAC 802.15.4 implementation Pavel Machek
2009-06-04 0:32 ` [PATCH 03/10] net: add IEEE 802.15.4 socket family implementation Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20090603173214.6d3997f7.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-04 11:16 ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
[not found] ` <20090604111634.GA28064-nIupHZaCssqR2kOLt6zJ8ErlnG4Plg33XqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-04 13:46 ` John W. Linville
[not found] ` <20090604134455.GB2839-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-04 14:10 ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
[not found] ` <bc64b4640906040710p5c7c941fi3341599bc3157b79-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-04 14:15 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-04 0:05 ` [PATCH 01/10] crc-itu-t: add bit-reversed calculation Andrew Morton
2009-06-05 4:03 ` [RFC][WIP] IEEE 802.15.4 implementation for Linux v1 Jon Smirl
[not found] ` <9e4733910906042103q6c21886cia02d33cb278cef1e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-05 4:49 ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
[not found] ` <bc64b4640906042149pb83911bk4e0397da11f9fde6-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-05 12:58 ` Jon Smirl
2009-06-13 3:21 ` Jon Smirl
[not found] ` <9e4733910906122021k4568df6rd80fb915b64ac12-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-13 5:37 ` Maxim Osipov
2009-06-13 12:39 ` Jon Smirl
2009-06-21 6:40 ` Pavel Machek
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