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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: bhutchings@solarflare.com, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, mcarlson@broadcom.com
Subject: Re: netpoll + xmit_lock == deadlock
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:59:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1249329581.3703.122.camel@calx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090803.121512.75779533.davem@davemloft.net>

On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 12:15 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>
> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:05:57 +0100
> 
> > On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 13:07 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> >> My position has always been that such printk's are simply
> >> not allowed.  (check archives if you don't believe me :-)
> >>
> >> The locking is going to get rediculious if we start having
> >> to account for this.
> > 
> > I agree with that, but this does seem quite restrictive.  How can we be
> > sure that none of the kernel functions used by a driver's TX path (e.g.
> > kmalloc or DMA-mapping) will print debug or warning messages?  If such
> > guarantees exist, they do not seem to be documented.
> 
> Indeed, that's a good counter-argument.
> 
> Ho hum... so someone show me how ugly the locking is going
> to get :-)

First, I don't think we can solve the problem of 'reliably deliver
printks inside the TX path'. If the driver needs to printk here, odds
are good that sending isn't possible.

So I think we should be clear up front that the solution we're looking
for is 'don't crash the box when trying to printk from the tx path'.

I think the most straightforward, driver-agnostic way to do this
is to have netpoll wrap a driver's TX entrypoint such that recursion is
disabled while in that path. This might actually simplify netpoll's
internal locking ugliness. Something like:

int netpoll_xmit_wrapper(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
{
	struct netpoll_info *npinfo = dev->npinfo;
	int ret;

	npinfo->recurse += 1; /* add appropriate locking */
	ret = npinfo->orig_tx(skb, dev);
	npinfo->recurse -= 1;
	
	return ret;
}

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-03 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-29  7:35 netpoll + xmit_lock == deadlock Herbert Xu
2009-07-29 19:07 ` Matt Mackall
2009-07-29 19:43   ` Neil Horman
2009-07-29 21:48     ` Matt Mackall
2009-07-29 23:15       ` Neil Horman
2009-07-29 23:17         ` Herbert Xu
2009-07-30  1:02           ` Neil Horman
2009-07-31  1:27             ` Herbert Xu
2009-07-29 22:38     ` Herbert Xu
2009-07-30  1:06       ` Neil Horman
2009-07-31  1:30         ` Herbert Xu
2009-07-31 12:56           ` Neil Horman
2009-07-31 13:02             ` Herbert Xu
2009-07-31 18:09               ` Neil Horman
2009-08-02 20:07 ` David Miller
2009-08-03 12:05   ` Ben Hutchings
2009-08-03 19:15     ` David Miller
2009-08-03 19:59       ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2009-08-04  4:19         ` David Miller
2009-08-04  6:48           ` Herbert Xu
2009-08-04  0:15   ` Herbert Xu

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