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From: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
To: KOVACS Krisztian <hidden@sch.bme.hu>
Cc: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	KOVACS Krisztian <hidden@balabit.hu>,
	Andreas Schultz <aschultz@warp10.net>,
	tproxy@lists.balabit.hu, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tproxy,regression] tproxy broken in 2.6.32
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:44:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1259437442.3864.61.camel@bigi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091128190500.GB12264@sch.bme.hu>

On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 20:05 +0100, KOVACS Krisztian wrote:
> Hi,
> 

> The source address *is* unicast. 

Sorry - I meant the route type is unicast. The fact that an address is
unicast or not is already dealt with by the time you get to source
address validation (in ip_input())

> The problem is that the routing setup is
> asymmetrical, as Patrick has already mentioned: we're using a mark to
> force certain packets (those that have matching sockets on the host) being
> delivered locally.
>
> In the other direction, reply packets won't be marked by the iptables
> rules and thus will be routed on egress just fine. 

In that case i dont understand the reluctance to use unicast routes.
Maybe you can explain and put me at ease because i see youve put extra
effort to use local addresses. 

> Your modification has
> the assumption that routing is symmetrical, and that reply packets will
> have the same mark. That assumption is not necessarily right, and I think
> it's not entirely unreasonable to think that not only tproxy setups will
> be broken by the change.
> 
> > So i didnt introduce that logic thats causing this pain.
> 
> Well, it depends whether or not you consider the initial setup valid.
> 

Based on what i see - I frankly dont. If i looked up the source address
and found that it belonged to something other than unicast route - we
drop it. It doesnt matter whether you use policy routing, rpf or not.
It may be the solution is to allow local routes under certain conditions
although i dont understand why.

> > If it worked before it was hack or fluke imo ;-> If we think that
> > source address validation needs to check for something else
> > additionally, i think thats a separate topic (but doesnt
> > seem worth a change)
> 
> My only concern is that this definitely breaks current setups, and while
> we do have a workaround we don't have a way to let all users know what
> needs to be done...

This code just went in i think. And really this is a user space issue;
i am not unreasonable - please convince me i am just having a technical
challenge understanding your desire to use local instead of unicast.

cheers,
jamal


  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-28 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <db81a9a20911230443h443b3c2l8fab5aef7b09cfa@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <1259137434.9191.3.camel@nienna.balabit>
2009-11-26 17:19   ` [tproxy,regression] tproxy broken in 2.6.32 Andreas Schultz
2009-11-27  8:26     ` KOVACS Krisztian
2009-11-27  9:11       ` Andreas Schultz
2009-11-27 16:05       ` jamal
2009-11-28 15:15         ` KOVACS Krisztian
2009-11-28 15:45           ` jamal
2009-11-28 18:50             ` KOVACS Krisztian
2009-11-28 19:26               ` jamal
2009-11-28 15:46           ` Patrick McHardy
2009-11-28 16:04             ` jamal
2009-11-28 17:07               ` Patrick McHardy
2009-11-28 17:36                 ` jamal
2009-11-28 19:05                   ` KOVACS Krisztian
2009-11-28 19:44                     ` jamal [this message]
2009-11-28 21:21                       ` David Miller
2009-11-28 22:20                         ` jamal
2009-11-29 20:35                       ` KOVACS Krisztian
2009-11-30 12:15                         ` jamal
2009-11-30 12:45                           ` KOVACS Krisztian
2009-11-30 13:59                             ` jamal
2009-12-01 13:34                               ` jamal
2009-12-03  6:31                                 ` David Miller
2009-12-03 13:53                                   ` jamal
2009-12-03 13:55                                     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-12-03 14:07                                       ` KOVACS Krisztian
2009-12-03 14:29                                         ` jamal
2009-12-13 16:52                                           ` [PATCH] net: restore ip source validation WAS(Re: " jamal
2009-12-13 18:12                                             ` Julian Anastasov
2009-12-13 18:38                                               ` jamal
2009-12-13 19:11                                                 ` jamal
2009-12-13 19:15                                                   ` jamal
2009-12-14  3:10                                                     ` David Miller
2009-12-14 10:19                                                       ` jamal
2009-12-26  1:30                                                         ` David Miller
2009-12-26 15:05                                                           ` jamal
2009-12-26 21:45                                                             ` David Miller
2009-11-30 20:17                           ` David Miller
2009-11-28 21:22             ` David Miller

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