From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@gargoyle.fritz.box>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
hadi@cyberus.ca, Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Tom Herbert <therbert@google.com>,
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org, arjan@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] net: batch skb dequeueing from softnet input_pkt_queue
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 07:25:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1272605104.2209.658.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100429214144.GA10663@gargoyle.fritz.box>
Le jeudi 29 avril 2010 à 23:41 +0200, Andi Kleen a écrit :
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 09:12:27PM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > Yes, mostly, but about 200.000 wakeups per second I would say...
> >
> > If a cpu in deep state receives an IPI, process a softirq, should it
> > come back to deep state immediately, or should it wait for some
> > milliseconds ?
>
> In principle the cpuidle governour should detect this and not put the target into
> the slow deep c states. One change that was done recently to fix a similar
> problem for disk IO was to take processes that wait for IO into account
> (see 69d25870). But it doesn't work for networking.
>
> Here's a untested patch that might help: tell the cpuidle governour
> networking is waiting for IO. This will tell it to not go down the deeply.
>
> I might have missed some schedule() paths, feel free to add more.
>
> Actually it's probably too aggressive because it will avoid C states even for
> a closed window on the other side which might be hours. Better would
> be some heuristic to only do this when you're really expected IO shortly.
>
> Also does your workload even sleep at all? If not we would need to increase
> the iowait counters in recvmsg() itself.
>
My workload yes, uses blocking recvmsg() calls, but Jamal one uses
epoll() so I guess problem is more generic than that. We should have an
estimate of the number of wakeups (IO or not...) per second (or
sub-second) so that cpuidle can avoid these deep states ?
> Anyways might be still worth a try.
>
> For routing we probably need some other solution though, there are no
> schedules there.
>
> >
> > > Perhaps need to feed some information to cpuidle's governour to prevent this problem.
> > >
> > > idle=poll is very drastic, better to limit to C1
> > >
> >
> > How can I do this ?
>
> processor.max_cstate=1 or using /dev/network_latency
> (see Documentation/power/pm_qos_interface.txt)
>
> -Andi
>
Thanks, I'll play with this today !
>
>
> commit 810227a7c24ecae2bb4aac320490a7115ac33be8
> Author: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
> Date: Thu Apr 29 23:33:18 2010 +0200
>
> Use io_schedule() in network stack to tell cpuidle governour to guarantee lower latencies
>
> XXX: probably too aggressive, some of these sleeps are not under high load.
>
> Based on a bug report from Eric Dumazet.
>
> Signed-off-by: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
>
> diff --git a/net/core/sock.c b/net/core/sock.c
> index c5812bb..c246d6c 100644
> --- a/net/core/sock.c
> +++ b/net/core/sock.c
> @@ -1402,7 +1402,7 @@ static long sock_wait_for_wmem(struct sock *sk, long timeo)
> break;
> if (sk->sk_err)
> break;
> - timeo = schedule_timeout(timeo);
> + timeo = io_schedule_timeout(timeo);
> }
> finish_wait(sk->sk_sleep, &wait);
> return timeo;
> @@ -1512,7 +1512,7 @@ static void __lock_sock(struct sock *sk)
> prepare_to_wait_exclusive(&sk->sk_lock.wq, &wait,
> TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
> spin_unlock_bh(&sk->sk_lock.slock);
> - schedule();
> + io_schedule();
> spin_lock_bh(&sk->sk_lock.slock);
> if (!sock_owned_by_user(sk))
> break;
>
> >
> > Thanks !
> >
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-30 18:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-23 8:12 [PATCH v6] net: batch skb dequeueing from softnet input_pkt_queue Changli Gao
2010-04-23 9:27 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-23 22:02 ` jamal
2010-04-24 14:10 ` jamal
2010-04-26 14:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-26 14:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-26 21:06 ` jamal
[not found] ` <20100429174056.GA8044@gargoyle.fritz.box>
2010-04-29 17:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-29 18:10 ` OFT - reserving CPU's for networking Stephen Hemminger
2010-04-29 19:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-29 20:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-30 18:15 ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-04-30 18:57 ` David Miller
2010-04-30 19:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-30 21:01 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-30 22:30 ` David Miller
2010-05-01 10:53 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-01 22:03 ` David Miller
2010-05-01 22:58 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-01 23:29 ` David Miller
2010-05-01 23:44 ` Ben Hutchings
2010-05-01 20:31 ` Martin Josefsson
2010-05-01 22:13 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20100429182347.GA8512@gargoyle.fritz.box>
2010-04-29 19:12 ` [PATCH v6] net: batch skb dequeueing from softnet input_pkt_queue Eric Dumazet
[not found] ` <20100429214144.GA10663@gargoyle.fritz.box>
2010-04-30 5:25 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2010-04-30 23:38 ` David Miller
2010-05-01 11:00 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02 6:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 9:20 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02 10:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 14:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-02 14:27 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 15:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 17:54 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-02 19:22 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 22:06 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-03 3:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-03 5:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-03 10:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-03 10:34 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-03 14:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-03 14:45 ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-05-04 1:10 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-03 15:52 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-04 1:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-02 21:30 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02 15:46 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02 16:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 17:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-02 17:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 21:25 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02 21:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 21:54 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02 22:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-03 20:15 ` jamal
2010-04-26 21:03 ` jamal
2010-04-23 10:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-27 22:08 ` David Miller
2010-04-27 22:18 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] bnx2x: Remove two prefetch() Eric Dumazet
2010-04-27 22:19 ` David Miller
2010-04-28 13:14 ` Eilon Greenstein
2010-04-28 15:44 ` Eliezer Tamir
2010-04-28 16:53 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <w2ue8f3c3211004280842r9f2589e8qb8fd4b7933cd9756@mail.gmail.com>
2010-04-28 16:55 ` David Miller
2010-04-28 11:33 ` jamal
2010-04-28 12:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-28 12:36 ` jamal
2010-04-28 14:06 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: speedup udp receive path Eric Dumazet
2010-04-28 14:19 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-28 14:34 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-28 21:36 ` David Miller
2010-04-28 22:22 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: ip_queue_rcv_skb() helper Eric Dumazet
2010-04-28 22:39 ` David Miller
2010-04-28 23:44 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: speedup udp receive path jamal
2010-04-29 0:00 ` jamal
2010-04-29 4:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-29 11:35 ` jamal
2010-04-29 12:12 ` Changli Gao
2010-04-29 12:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-29 13:17 ` jamal
2010-04-29 13:21 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-29 13:37 ` jamal
2010-04-29 13:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-29 13:56 ` jamal
2010-04-29 20:36 ` jamal
2010-04-29 21:01 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: sock_def_readable() and friends RCU conversion Eric Dumazet
2010-04-30 13:55 ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-04-30 17:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-30 23:35 ` David Miller
2010-05-01 4:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 7:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 8:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 22:00 ` David Miller
2010-04-30 19:30 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: speedup udp receive path jamal
2010-04-30 20:40 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 0:06 ` jamal
2010-05-01 5:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 6:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 10:24 ` Changli Gao
2010-05-01 10:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 11:29 ` jamal
2010-05-01 11:23 ` jamal
2010-05-01 11:42 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 11:56 ` jamal
2010-05-01 13:22 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 13:49 ` jamal
2010-05-03 20:10 ` jamal
2010-04-29 23:07 ` Changli Gao
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