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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@gargoyle.fritz.box>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	hadi@cyberus.ca, Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Tom Herbert <therbert@google.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org, arjan@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] net: batch skb dequeueing from softnet input_pkt_queue
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 07:25:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1272605104.2209.658.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100429214144.GA10663@gargoyle.fritz.box>

Le jeudi 29 avril 2010 à 23:41 +0200, Andi Kleen a écrit :
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 09:12:27PM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > Yes, mostly, but about 200.000 wakeups per second I would say...
> > 
> > If a cpu in deep state receives an IPI, process a softirq, should it
> > come back to deep state immediately, or should it wait for some
> > milliseconds ?
> 
> In principle the cpuidle governour should detect this and not put the target into
> the slow deep c states. One change that was done recently to fix a similar 
> problem for disk IO was to take processes that wait for IO into account 
> (see 69d25870). But it doesn't work for networking.
> 
> Here's a untested patch that might help: tell the cpuidle governour 
> networking is waiting for IO. This will tell it to not go down the deeply.
> 
> I might have missed some schedule() paths, feel free to add more.
> 
> Actually it's probably too aggressive because it will avoid C states even for
> a closed window on the other side which might be hours. Better would
> be some heuristic to only do this when you're really expected IO shortly.
> 
> Also does your workload even sleep at all? If not we would need to increase
> the iowait counters in recvmsg() itself.
> 

My workload yes, uses blocking recvmsg() calls, but Jamal one uses
epoll() so I guess problem is more generic than that. We should have an
estimate of the number of wakeups (IO or not...) per second (or
sub-second) so that cpuidle can avoid these deep states ?

> Anyways might be still worth a try.
> 
> For routing we probably need some other solution though, there are no 
> schedules there.
> 
> > 
> > > Perhaps need to feed some information to cpuidle's governour to prevent this problem.
> > > 
> > > idle=poll is very drastic, better to limit to C1 
> > > 
> > 
> > How can I do this ?
> 
> processor.max_cstate=1 or using /dev/network_latency 
> (see Documentation/power/pm_qos_interface.txt)
> 
> -Andi
> 

Thanks, I'll play with this today !

> 
> 
> commit 810227a7c24ecae2bb4aac320490a7115ac33be8
> Author: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
> Date:   Thu Apr 29 23:33:18 2010 +0200
> 
>     Use io_schedule() in network stack to tell cpuidle governour to guarantee lower latencies
> 
>     XXX: probably too aggressive, some of these sleeps are not under high load.
> 
>     Based on a bug report from Eric Dumazet.
>     
>     Signed-off-by: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
> 
> diff --git a/net/core/sock.c b/net/core/sock.c
> index c5812bb..c246d6c 100644
> --- a/net/core/sock.c
> +++ b/net/core/sock.c
> @@ -1402,7 +1402,7 @@ static long sock_wait_for_wmem(struct sock *sk, long timeo)
>  			break;
>  		if (sk->sk_err)
>  			break;
> -		timeo = schedule_timeout(timeo);
> +		timeo = io_schedule_timeout(timeo);
>  	}
>  	finish_wait(sk->sk_sleep, &wait);
>  	return timeo;
> @@ -1512,7 +1512,7 @@ static void __lock_sock(struct sock *sk)
>  		prepare_to_wait_exclusive(&sk->sk_lock.wq, &wait,
>  					TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
>  		spin_unlock_bh(&sk->sk_lock.slock);
> -		schedule();
> +		io_schedule();
>  		spin_lock_bh(&sk->sk_lock.slock);
>  		if (!sock_owned_by_user(sk))
>  			break;
> 
> > 
> > Thanks !
> > 
> > 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-30 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-23  8:12 [PATCH v6] net: batch skb dequeueing from softnet input_pkt_queue Changli Gao
2010-04-23  9:27 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-23 22:02   ` jamal
2010-04-24 14:10     ` jamal
2010-04-26 14:03       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-26 14:55         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-26 21:06           ` jamal
     [not found]           ` <20100429174056.GA8044@gargoyle.fritz.box>
2010-04-29 17:56             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-29 18:10               ` OFT - reserving CPU's for networking Stephen Hemminger
2010-04-29 19:19                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-29 20:02                   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-30 18:15                     ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-04-30 18:57                   ` David Miller
2010-04-30 19:58                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-30 21:01                     ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-30 22:30                       ` David Miller
2010-05-01 10:53                         ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-01 22:03                           ` David Miller
2010-05-01 22:58                             ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-01 23:29                               ` David Miller
2010-05-01 23:44                             ` Ben Hutchings
2010-05-01 20:31                     ` Martin Josefsson
2010-05-01 22:13                       ` David Miller
     [not found]               ` <20100429182347.GA8512@gargoyle.fritz.box>
2010-04-29 19:12                 ` [PATCH v6] net: batch skb dequeueing from softnet input_pkt_queue Eric Dumazet
     [not found]                   ` <20100429214144.GA10663@gargoyle.fritz.box>
2010-04-30  5:25                     ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2010-04-30 23:38                     ` David Miller
2010-05-01 11:00                       ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02  6:56                         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02  9:20                           ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02 10:54                             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 14:13                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-02 14:27                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 15:32                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 17:54                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-02 19:22                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 22:06                                       ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-03  3:50                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-03  5:17                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-03 10:22                                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-03 10:34                                             ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-03 14:09                                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-03 14:45                                                 ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-05-04  1:10                                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-03 15:52                                                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-04  1:11                                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-02 21:30                                     ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02 15:46                               ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02 16:35                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 17:43                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-02 17:47                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 21:25                                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02 21:45                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 21:54                                       ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02 22:08                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-03 20:15                                           ` jamal
2010-04-26 21:03         ` jamal
2010-04-23 10:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-27 22:08   ` David Miller
2010-04-27 22:18     ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] bnx2x: Remove two prefetch() Eric Dumazet
2010-04-27 22:19       ` David Miller
2010-04-28 13:14         ` Eilon Greenstein
2010-04-28 15:44           ` Eliezer Tamir
2010-04-28 16:53           ` David Miller
     [not found]           ` <w2ue8f3c3211004280842r9f2589e8qb8fd4b7933cd9756@mail.gmail.com>
2010-04-28 16:55             ` David Miller
2010-04-28 11:33       ` jamal
2010-04-28 12:33         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-28 12:36           ` jamal
2010-04-28 14:06             ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: speedup udp receive path Eric Dumazet
2010-04-28 14:19               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-28 14:34                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-28 21:36               ` David Miller
2010-04-28 22:22                 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: ip_queue_rcv_skb() helper Eric Dumazet
2010-04-28 22:39                   ` David Miller
2010-04-28 23:44               ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: speedup udp receive path jamal
2010-04-29  0:00                 ` jamal
2010-04-29  4:09                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-29 11:35                   ` jamal
2010-04-29 12:12                     ` Changli Gao
2010-04-29 12:45                       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-29 13:17                         ` jamal
2010-04-29 13:21                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-29 13:37                             ` jamal
2010-04-29 13:49                               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-29 13:56                                 ` jamal
2010-04-29 20:36                                   ` jamal
2010-04-29 21:01                                     ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: sock_def_readable() and friends RCU conversion Eric Dumazet
2010-04-30 13:55                                       ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-04-30 17:26                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-30 23:35                                       ` David Miller
2010-05-01  4:56                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01  7:02                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01  8:03                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 22:00                                             ` David Miller
2010-04-30 19:30                                     ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: speedup udp receive path jamal
2010-04-30 20:40                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01  0:06                                         ` jamal
2010-05-01  5:57                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01  6:14                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 10:24                                               ` Changli Gao
2010-05-01 10:47                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 11:29                                               ` jamal
2010-05-01 11:23                                             ` jamal
2010-05-01 11:42                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 11:56                                                 ` jamal
2010-05-01 13:22                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 13:49                                                     ` jamal
2010-05-03 20:10                                                   ` jamal
2010-04-29 23:07                         ` Changli Gao

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