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From: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Jiri Pirko <jpirko@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, kaber@trash.net
Subject: Re: Question about an assignment in handle_ing()
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 08:43:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1275569030.3445.49.camel@bigi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100603080130.GA29709@gondor.apana.org.au>


On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 18:01 +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:29:10AM -0400, jamal wrote:

> > The packet path is:
> > -->eth0-->tcpdump eth0-->pedit-->mirror to dummy0-->tcpdump dummy0
> 
> Well this doesn't guarantee a cloned packet at all.  Once af_packet
> receives the packet it'll wake up any listeners like tcpdump, if
> tcpdump gets to it before pedit runs then the packet won't be
> cloned anymore.

I may be misreading, but:
This is the point i have been trying to make, Herbert;-> There is no
_guarantee_ that the first tcpdump will see the packet that came out of
eth0 instead of seeing the packet that came out the pedit part of the
pipeline. I need to see the correct packet. I know with my check
this is guaranteed.

> Anyway, I don't see why actions are special.  Everybody else lives
> by the rule that cloned skbs are not writeable.  

Yes, if skb_cloned() is true but it is not as i said in my earlier
email.

> So if this was
> indeed buggy as you say it would have shown up a long time ago.

Things may have been buggy - I dont know; you just validated to me that
it _may_ happen. I will be more than happy to remove it if i can get a
guarantee.
So how do we fix this?
Does af_packet need to always clone? That way i can depend on it. I have
a feeling someone will be unhappy with that. I am avoiding to clone
every packet on my part because afaik this problem doesnt exist if i
dont use tcpdump/af_packet...

> Case in point, we had a bug in certain NIC drivers where they
> modified cloned skbs for TSO.  This quickly showed up as bogus
> packets in tcpdump and we fixed it.

I think this is different.

cheers,
jamal


  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-03 12:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-24 11:22 Question about an assignment in handle_ing() Jiri Pirko
2010-05-25  9:51 ` jamal
2010-05-25 10:26   ` Herbert Xu
2010-05-25 12:03     ` jamal
2010-05-25 12:12       ` Herbert Xu
2010-05-25 12:20         ` jamal
2010-05-25 12:46           ` Herbert Xu
2010-05-25 13:13             ` jamal
2010-05-25 23:13               ` Herbert Xu
2010-05-26 11:38                 ` jamal
2010-05-30 13:29                   ` jamal
2010-06-03  8:01                     ` Herbert Xu
2010-06-03 12:43                       ` jamal [this message]
2010-06-03 12:47                         ` Herbert Xu
2010-06-03 12:53                           ` jamal
2010-06-03 12:56                             ` Herbert Xu
2010-06-03 12:58                             ` Herbert Xu
2010-06-03 12:58                             ` jamal
2010-06-03 13:00                               ` Herbert Xu
2010-06-03 13:01                                 ` jamal

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