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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Vladislav Zolotarov <vladz@broadcom.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"therbert@google.com" <therbert@google.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] bnx2x: add support for receive hashing
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:41:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1278870093.2538.175.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8628FE4E7912BF47A96AE7DD7BAC0AADDDE6470521@SJEXCHCCR02.corp.ad.broadcom.com>

Le dimanche 11 juillet 2010 à 10:22 -0700, Vladislav Zolotarov a écrit :
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org] On
> > Behalf Of Eric Dumazet
> > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:45 PM
> > To: Vladislav Zolotarov
> > Cc: David Miller; therbert@google.com; netdev@vger.kernel.org
> > Subject: RE: [PATCH] bnx2x: add support for receive hashing
> > 
> > Le dimanche 11 juillet 2010 à 06:16 -0700, Vladislav Zolotarov a écrit :
> > > Dave, it's obvious that there a demand for a new HW/FW configuration
> > > from our side - "rx hash enable" which is currently tightly coupled
> > > with the RSS capability. As long as RSS flow in our FW includes a few
> > > more things apart from just creating an RSS hash and as long as there
> > > are flows (even hypothetical) that demand the RSS hash regardless the
> > > RSS itself we started to work on separation of these two features from
> > > FW perspective. This of course will demand a new FW version but once
> > > we have it we'll be able to be more specific in HW configuration and
> > > have a cleaner code.
> > >
> > > Technically, our FW may provide the Rx HASH always and in a current
> > > driver configuration this is what it does.
> > > I wonder if the driver always provides the HW RX HASH in the
> > > skb->rxhash regardless the value of NETIF_F_RXHASH bit in a
> > > netdev->features will it cause any harm? If not we can get rid of two
> > > extra conditionals in the bnx2x_rx_int().
> > 
> > Hi
> > 
> > Please dont top-post on netdev, thanks.
> 
> This discussion is directly related to Tom's patch that's why I'm posting on this thread. 
> 

Thats not the question. I am saying "dont top-post", not "dont change
the subject"

> > 
> > NETIF_RX_HASH bit is needed so that we can disable skb->rxhash from a
> > particular NIC if we know the hardware provided rxhash is not fulfilling
> > our needs (We prefer spend some cpu cycles to recompute a software
> > rxhash).
> > 
> > Software one for example deliver same rxhash values for both ways of a
> > TCP flow, it can help conntracking for example.
> 
> I understand that, in that case the proper implementation would be to check the netdev->features when u decide to calculate the SW rxhash, isn't it?
> 

Nope, please check get_rps_cpus()

We only do :

if (skb->rxhash)
	goto got_hash; /* Skip hash computation on packet header */

That means if skb->rxhash is set, we dont force a recompute.

Your suggestion would move a test from device driver into
get_rps_cpus() ?

Given RPS is more targeted to old devices (not able to provide rxhash),
I am not sure it brings anything.

> > 
> > The conditional in driver rx is cheap, since the condition is the same
> > for all packets and CPU can predicts the branch.
> 
> Not exactly. Our FW/HW won't provide the rxhash for none-IP packets
> setting the hash CQE field to zero and clearing the
> ETH_FAST_PATH_RX_CQE_RSS_HASH_FLG in the CQE statsu_flags (for ARPs
> for instance). Branch prediction is nice but considering my previous
> remark why do we need this branch at all?

Please limit your lines to 70 chars

We want drivers to set skb->rxhash only if allowed to.

If you feel this is bad for your firmware/hardware/driver, dont set
skb->rxhash.




  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-11 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-23  5:54 [PATCH] bnx2x: add support for receive hashing Tom Herbert
2010-04-23  7:11 ` David Miller
2010-04-26 17:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-26 17:38   ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-26 17:47     ` Ben Hutchings
2010-04-26 17:56       ` David Miller
2010-04-26 18:04     ` David Miller
2010-04-26 18:19       ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-26 18:22         ` David Miller
2010-04-26 20:19           ` Rick Jones
2010-04-26 20:40             ` David Miller
2010-04-26 20:48               ` Rick Jones
2010-04-26 20:53                 ` David Miller
2010-04-26 21:12                   ` Rick Jones
2010-04-27 18:31                     ` Eilon Greenstein
2010-04-27 19:30                       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-26 20:58               ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-04-26 21:11               ` jamal
2010-04-26 21:14                 ` jamal
2010-04-26 23:27             ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-04-27 13:37       ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-04-27 14:30         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-27 15:44           ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-04-27 16:51         ` David Miller
2010-04-27 17:02           ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-04-27 17:06             ` David Miller
2010-04-27 17:13           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-27 17:20             ` David Miller
2010-04-27 17:37               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-27 20:21                 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: sk_add_backlog() take rmem_alloc into account Eric Dumazet
2010-04-27 21:43                   ` David Miller
2010-04-27 22:11                     ` David Miller
2010-04-27 22:19                       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-28 15:41                   ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-04-28 15:52                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-27 17:31             ` [PATCH] bnx2x: add support for receive hashing Tom Herbert
2010-04-27 17:36               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-07-04 16:36 ` Vladislav Zolotarov
2010-07-04 16:46   ` Vladislav Zolotarov
2010-07-06  7:16   ` Vladislav Zolotarov
2010-07-07 19:17     ` Tom Herbert
2010-07-08  8:40       ` Vladislav Zolotarov
2010-07-11  2:12       ` David Miller
2010-07-11 10:02         ` Vladislav Zolotarov
2010-07-11 13:16           ` Vladislav Zolotarov
2010-07-11 16:45             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-07-11 17:22               ` Vladislav Zolotarov
2010-07-11 17:41                 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2010-07-11 18:18                   ` Vladislav Zolotarov
2010-07-11 22:34           ` David Miller

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