From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Cc: Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>,
Marc Aurele La France <tsi@ualberta.ca>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
"Pekka Savola (ipv6)" <pekkas@netcore.fi>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Subject: Re: RFC: MTU for serving NFS on Infiniband
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:54:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1282715698.2467.681.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100824153920.63360072@s6510>
Le mardi 24 août 2010 à 15:39 -0700, Stephen Hemminger a écrit :
> IF NFS server is smart enough to generate:
> Header (skb) + one or more pages in fragment list
> then IP fragmentation could do fragmentation by allocating
> new headers skb (small) and assigning the same pages to
> multiple skb's using page ref count.
>
> It obviously isn't working that way.
>
It is, but ip_append_data() is allocating a huge head if MTU is huge.
NFS is trying to build paged skb, to avoid order-X allocations (X > 0)
> The whole problem is moot because NFS over UDP has known data corruption
> issues in the face of packet loss. The sequence number of the IP fragment
> can easily wrap around causing old data to be grouped with new data and
> the UDP checksum is so weak that the resulting UDP packet will be consumed by the NFS
> client ans passed to the user application as corrupted disk block.
>
> DON'T USE NFS OVER UDP!
But Marc point is using a big MTU, so that no IP fragmentation is
needed.
All UDP applications using MSG_MORE will hit the order-2 allocations if
MTU=9000 for example...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-25 5:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-23 14:44 RFC: MTU for serving NFS on Infiniband Marc Aurele La France
2010-08-23 15:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-08-24 15:14 ` Marc Aurele La France
2010-08-24 17:57 ` Ben Hutchings
2010-08-24 19:49 ` Marc Aurele La France
2010-08-24 20:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-08-24 20:33 ` Marc Aurele La France
2010-08-24 22:20 ` Ben Hutchings
2010-08-24 22:39 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-08-25 5:54 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2010-08-25 12:10 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2010-08-25 12:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-08-26 11:40 ` Marc Aurele La France
2010-08-26 11:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-08-26 14:43 ` Marc Aurele La France
2010-08-26 23:53 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-08-27 0:06 ` David Miller
2010-08-27 16:20 ` Roland Dreier
2010-08-27 17:16 ` Roland Dreier
2010-08-27 17:53 ` Marc Aurele La France
2010-08-26 14:58 ` Chuck Lever
2010-09-30 18:50 ` Marc Aurele La France
2010-08-23 15:12 ` Ben Hutchings
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