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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: "ツ Leandro Melo de Sales" <leandroal@gmail.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: TCP packet size and delivery packet decisions
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 08:09:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1283839769.2585.572.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=x4+YqyuOvpnUXd2PjMHifMPXEgEA=0=+wfPk7@mail.gmail.com>

Le mardi 07 septembre 2010 à 03:02 -0300, ツ Leandro Melo de Sales a
écrit :
> >
> 
> David,
>    Yes, 78 bytes is the size of each command. I have concluded the
> same as you. In this case, to deal with this type of situation, how
> about changing TCP implementation on Linux to send the whole packet
> when it is too small such in this case or when TCP notice that there
> is no change in the advertised rcwd or when advertised win is equal to
> advertised MSS, since the receiver is saying "I can receive packets in
> the same size of my cwd"?
> 
>   I'm sorry if I'm suggesting something that does not make sense, but
> since receiver advertises that are able to receive packets in that
> size which is equal to the congwin size, splitting the packet in this
> case only [unnecessarily] increased the flow completion time or avoid
> data to be delivered to the application as soon as possible since it
> arrived splitted. As we could notice from the tcpdump report, TCP
> implementation under Linux does not wait for any ACK of the first 48
> bytes sent out, it just sent the other 30 bytes in a consecutive
> delivery, which is the same as sending 78 bytes at once, since no
> decision is taken to send or not the other last 30 bytes.
> 
>    Regardless this discussion, can you at least suggest any workaround
> that I can do in the application layer to make TCP send the whole
> packet at once? As I said, I tried to use TCP_CORK suggested by
> Arnaldo (acme), but it does not work for me in this case.
> 

Is it a critical problem for you ?

If you give us at least some minutes or hours or even days to think
about this corner case, I am sure we can find a solution :)

They are two factors here : MSS=78 and WIN=78

Thanks



  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-07  6:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <AANLkTi=_heUejVf-wmEcKd910gVtpD7Hr=cZ_cs2Q8n9@mail.gmail.com>
2010-09-07  4:20 ` TCP packet size and delivery packet decisions ツ Leandro Melo de Sales
2010-09-07  4:36   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-09-07  5:13     ` ツ Leandro Melo de Sales
2010-09-07  5:16       ` David Miller
2010-09-07  5:21         ` ツ Leandro Melo de Sales
2010-09-07  5:30           ` David Miller
2010-09-07  6:02             ` ツ Leandro Melo de Sales
2010-09-07  6:09               ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2010-09-07  7:16                 ` ツ Leandro Melo de Sales
2010-09-07  7:32                   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-09-08 14:01                     ` ツ Leandro Melo de Sales
2010-09-07 11:39             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-09-07 12:15               ` Ilpo Järvinen
2010-09-08  3:18                 ` David Miller
2010-09-08 12:14                   ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2010-09-13  1:23                     ` David Miller
2010-09-14  9:37                       ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2010-09-15 17:29                         ` David Miller
2010-09-07 16:35               ` David Miller
2010-09-07 16:57               ` Rick Jones
2010-09-08 14:06               ` ツ Leandro Melo de Sales
2010-09-08 15:24                 ` David Miller
2010-09-08 16:03                   ` ツ Leandro Melo de Sales

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