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From: Jeff Kirsher <jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com>
To: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Cc: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/15] RFC: create drivers/net/legacy for ISA, EISA, MCA drivers
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:01:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1288396919.15283.23.camel@jtkirshe-MOBL1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1288390127.28828.225.camel@Joe-Laptop>

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On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 15:08 -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 17:26 -0400, Paul Gortmaker wrote:
> > On 10-10-28 09:48 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 21:19 -0400, Paul Gortmaker wrote:
> > >> The drivers/net dir has a lot of files - originally there were
> > >> no subdirs, but at least now subdirs are being used effectively.
> > >> But the original drivers from 10+ years ago are still right
> > >> there at the top.  This series creates a drivers/net/legacy dir.
> > > I like this idea.
> > > I suggest a bit of a further grouping by using a
> > > drivers/net/ethernet directory and putting those
> > > legacy drivers in a new subdirectory
> > > drivers/net/ethernet/legacy.
> > That is a substantially larger change, since you'd now be
> > relocating nearly every remaining driver, i.e. all the
> > relatively modern 100M and GigE drivers.
> 

I am not particularly a fan of making a "legacy" directory and moving
old drivers into it.  Just because this is very subjective, if you say
"drivers which are X years old and not used much" is vague and depending
on who you ask would get varying results.  But if you were to were to
define legacy as all ISA, EISA and MCA drivers (not based on their use)
would be better.

But if a legacy directory was to be made, I like Joe's suggestion of
drivers/net/ethernet/legacy.

> Files to not need immediate renames.
> 
> Renames could happen when the appropriate maintainer
> wants to or gets coerced to conform to some new
> file layout standard.
> 
> I had submitted a related RFC patch:
> 
> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/244641/
> 
> and then had some off list discussions
> with Jeff Kirsher from Intel.
> 
> Perhaps Jeff will chime in.
> 
> > Plus what do you
> > do with the sb1000 - create drivers/cablemodem/legacy
> > just for one file?
> 
> I never looked at that particular driver before.
> Maybe.  I don't have a strong opinion.  Leaving
> it where it is might be OK.
> 
> > Or the ethernet drivers already in
> > existing subdirs, like arm and pcmcia -- do we move those?
> 
> Maybe.  If there's no demand, there's no absolute need to
> move it at all.  I think a reasonable goal is to have some
> sensible and consistent file layout scheme though.
> 
> There are arch specific directories under various drivers/...
> so I don't see a need to move directories like drivers/net/arm
> or drivers/s390.

I agree with Joe.

> 
> > With this, I tried to aim for a significant gain (close to 1/3
> > less files) within what I felt was a reasonable sized change
> > set that had a chance of getting an overall OK from folks.
> > Giant "flag-day" type mammoth changesets are a PITA for all.
> 
> I believe there's no need for a flag-day.
> File renames could happen gradually or not at all.
> 
> 

Again I agree with Joe.


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  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-30  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-29  1:19 [PATCH 0/15] RFC: create drivers/net/legacy for ISA, EISA, MCA drivers Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 01/15] net: introduce legacy dir to absorb 10Mbit, ISA, EISA drivers Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 02/15] 3c501: relocate ancient 8 bit ISA driver to legacy dir Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 03/15] de6xx: relocate ancient parallel port eth drivers to legacy Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 04/15] sun3: Relocate the sun3 specific lance/83596 " Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 05/15] dec netdev: relocate DIGITAL based " Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  4:21   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2010-10-29  4:29     ` David Miller
2010-10-29  4:54       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2010-10-29  5:46         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2010-10-29  5:53           ` David Miller
2010-10-29  5:47         ` David Miller
2010-10-29  5:50           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2010-10-29  5:53             ` David Miller
2010-10-29  6:37               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 06/15] netdev: relocate i8258x and i8259x " Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 07/15] lance: relocate legacy 7990 " Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 08/15] netdev: relocate toplevel 8390 based drivers to legacy dir Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 09/15] netdev: relocate remaining ISA 3Com cards " Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 10/15] netdev: relocate more one-off drivers to the " Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 11/15] netdev: kill off the concept of NET_VENDOR_FOO Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 12/15] netdev: relocate sb1000 ISA cable modem driver to legacy Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 13/15] netdev: kill off NET_ISA Kconfig option Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 14/15] MAINTAINERS: updates for new drivers/net/legacy dir Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:19 ` [PATCH 15/15] netdev: relocate LICENSE.SRC to legacy Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29  1:48 ` [PATCH 0/15] RFC: create drivers/net/legacy for ISA, EISA, MCA drivers Joe Perches
2010-10-29  9:40   ` David Lamparter
2010-10-29 10:13     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2010-10-29 21:26   ` Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-29 22:08     ` Joe Perches
2010-10-30  0:01       ` Jeff Kirsher [this message]
2010-11-04 21:20         ` Paul Gortmaker
2010-11-05  2:28           ` Jeff Kirsher
2010-11-05 12:51             ` Paul Gortmaker
2010-11-18 23:52             ` Joe Perches
2010-11-19  0:34               ` Jeff Kirsher
     [not found] ` <alpine.LNX.2.01.1012161253560.3000@obet.zrqbmnf.qr>
2010-12-16 12:22   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-17  9:51     ` Jeff Kirsher

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