From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: andi@firstfloor.org, drosenberg@vsecurity.com,
chas3@users.sourceforge.net, tytso@mit.edu,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru,
pekkas@netcore.fi, jmorris@namei.org, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org,
kaber@trash.net, remi.denis-courmont@nokia.com,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, security@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Security] [SECURITY] Fix leaking of kernel heap addresses via /proc
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 08:33:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1289201612.2478.371.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101107.180108.71121019.davem@davemloft.net>
Le dimanche 07 novembre 2010 à 18:01 -0800, David Miller a écrit :
> From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 00:56:10 +0100
>
> > I would just remove the pointers from /proc and supply
> > gdb macros that extract the equivalent information from /proc/kcore.
> > This is a bit racy, but for debugging it should be no
> > problem to run them multiple times as needed.
>
> I do not think at all that this is tenable for the kind of
> things people use the socket pointers for when debugging
> problems.
>
> I defeinitely prefer the inode number to this idea.
We currently have no guarantee of sockets inode numbers unicity.
I admit chances of clash are low.
When a printk() happens right before a BUG(), how are we going to check
the dumped registers are possibly close the socket involved, if we dont
have access to the machine, and only the crashlog ?
BTW, any local user can look at "dmesg", and crash reports. These
reports are even published on a remote site (bugzilla) so that hostile
hackers can be feeded.
I am OK to delete socket pointers from /proc files for non root users
(after checking things like lsof continue to work correctly).
I dont remember using them while doing debugging stuff.
BTW, rtnetlink also expose socket pointers to non root users :
$ ss -e dst 192.168.20.108
State Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address:Port Peer Address:Port
ESTAB 0 0 10.150.51.210:46979 192.168.20.108:ssh
timer:(keepalive,119min,0) ino:136919 sk:ffff88002129d7c0
Mixing in same patch /proc pointers removal and printk() pointers
removal seems wrong to me. Very different problems.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-08 7:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-06 20:11 [SECURITY] Fix leaking of kernel heap addresses via /proc Dan Rosenberg
2010-11-06 20:50 ` [Security] " Linus Torvalds
2010-11-06 23:48 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-07 21:52 ` Andi Kleen
2010-11-07 22:48 ` Chas Williams (CONTRACTOR)
2010-11-07 23:14 ` Andi Kleen
2010-11-07 23:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-07 23:29 ` Andi Kleen
2010-11-07 23:27 ` Dan Rosenberg
2010-11-07 23:56 ` Andi Kleen
2010-11-08 2:01 ` David Miller
2010-11-08 7:33 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2010-11-08 9:43 ` Andi Kleen
2010-11-08 10:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-06 23:57 ` David Miller
2010-11-07 10:28 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2010-11-07 17:11 ` Ben Hutchings
2010-11-08 1:00 ` Willy Tarreau
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