From: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
To: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@gmail.com>
Cc: Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Pawel Staszewski <pstaszewski@itcare.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-2.6] net_sched: always clone skbs
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:35:33 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1293111333.11306.170.camel@mojatatu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101221223704.GA1979@del.dom.local>
On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 23:37 +0100, Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> Actually, when dumb isn't a good principle? ;->
>
> Speaking about wrong things like optimizing this 1st commandment: it
> seems, if we're stealing not shared skb it's not unreasonable to tell
> others not to touch it anymore, and skip kfree_skb() in handle_ing(),
> unless I miss something?
I dont know how much cycles it will save you vs the code you add
but it is not unreasonable. Of course it would mean we are moving
beyond KISSes[1] now Jarek;->
> > In order to make my trick work. We need to assure dev_queue_xmit() and
> > dev_hard_start_xmit() accept shared skbs. As Eric pointed, pktgen also
> > need dev->netdev_ops->ndo_start_xmit() accept shared skbs. We need to
> > fix every ndo_start_xmit() one by one, then dev_hard_start_xmit(), and
> > when dev_queue_xmit() is also fixed, my trick can be added back.
> > :)
>
> I'm not sure pktgen is right - even if it's safe in its case, it seems
> to break some older rules, and drivers should really own the things.
> So it needs reviewing first.
The idea we always try to keep is that the caller is responsible for the
fate of the skb it sent. The callee will do things like make a copy or
clone if it needed to make changes or keep the skb. Same should be
expected of a driver.
cheers,
jamal
[1] Jarek - so you dont misunderstand this as an overture - it means
Keep It Simple Silly (or the principle of dumb we talked about) ;->
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-23 13:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-20 14:35 [PATCH net-2.6] net_sched: always clone skbs Changli Gao
2010-12-20 14:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-20 18:27 ` David Miller
2010-12-20 23:20 ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-12-20 23:28 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-20 23:52 ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-12-21 13:52 ` jamal
2010-12-21 14:17 ` Changli Gao
2010-12-21 22:37 ` Jarek Poplawski
2010-12-23 13:35 ` jamal [this message]
2010-12-23 23:04 ` Jarek Poplawski
2011-01-02 21:27 ` [RFC] net_sched: mark packet staying on queue too long Eric Dumazet
2011-01-03 13:52 ` jamal
2011-01-03 14:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-01-03 15:02 ` jamal
2011-01-03 18:11 ` [PATCH] sch_red: report backlog information Eric Dumazet
2011-01-03 20:13 ` David Miller
2011-01-03 17:58 ` [RFC] net_sched: mark packet staying on queue too long Stephen Hemminger
2011-01-04 14:19 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2011-01-04 15:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-01-04 16:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-01-04 18:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-01-04 18:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-01-13 11:50 ` Patrick McHardy
2011-01-13 15:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-01-13 16:04 ` sch_sfb [was: net_sched: mark packet staying on queue too long] Juliusz Chroboczek
2011-01-13 18:59 ` Patrick McHardy
2011-01-14 0:59 ` sch_sfb Juliusz Chroboczek
2011-01-14 1:39 ` sch_sfb Patrick McHardy
2011-01-14 13:34 ` sch_sfb Juliusz Chroboczek
2011-01-14 13:37 ` sch_sfb Patrick McHardy
2011-01-14 15:09 ` sch_sfb Eric Dumazet
2011-01-14 21:06 ` sch_sfb Jarek Poplawski
2010-12-21 0:21 ` [PATCH net-2.6] net_sched: always clone skbs Changli Gao
2010-12-21 3:55 ` David Miller
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